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Finding parking seems to be the biggest problem by far, and for good reason

syntaxing 6y ago
Finding parking is half the challenge. Hoping you windows aren't smashed when you get back to the car is the other half.
- jedberg 6y ago
  This is why I always try to take the crappier of my two cars when I go to SF.
  - triceratops 6y ago
    My car's never been broken into when I'm in SF. I just realized my car might be crappy.
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- whimsicalism 6y ago
  Just don't lock your car
  - tshaddox 6y ago
    That works during the day, but overnight you have to worry about people using your car for various things and leaving various potentially dangerous substances and items in your car.
    - whimsicalism 6y ago
      Could they not still do that if they broke your window? FWIW I have heard of many people having their window broken, I have not met anyone who had any of the concerns that people have about leaving their car unlocked actually happen to them.
      - tshaddox 6y ago
        Yes, they could do it either way.
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jeffbee 6y ago
That's how you can tell it was a survey of drivers, not generally of people moving about in the city. Parking would not be a concern for the majority of trips that happen without a car.
meowkit 6y ago
Parking is not really a problem for self driving cars. Most people will use them as services. If you want to own one, then its a problem. But by the time individual can buy one I would bet they can just drive themselves around or to a distant location and wait for recall.
- akira2501 6y ago
  > Most people will use them as services. So we're just shifting the parking problem to a rush hour availability problem? Parking isn't merely an unnatural or unfortunate phenomenon. > or to a distant location and wait for recall. Which is essentially identical to public transportation.
  - dwohnitmok 6y ago
    > Which is essentially identical to public transportation. I disagree. It's worse, from a strictly time of transportation point of view, than having your own car, but point-to-point automated transportation with some initial recall latency is still leagues ahead of public transportation.
tchalla 6y ago
Here's a study from 2019 on the topic of self-driving cars and parking. > Self-driving cars will ‘cruise’ to avoid paying to park https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/self-driving-cars-will-cruise-avoid-paying-park https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/self-driving-car... The solution proposed by this study is "congestion pricing".
- thaumasiotes 6y ago
  The obvious solution would seem to be "the owner of a fleet of cars builds a parking garage for them".

Finding parking is half the challenge. Hoping you windows aren't smashed when you get back to the car is the other half.

jedberg 6y ago
This is why I always try to take the crappier of my two cars when I go to SF.
- triceratops 6y ago
  My car's never been broken into when I'm in SF. I just realized my car might be crappy.
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whimsicalism 6y ago
Just don't lock your car
- tshaddox 6y ago
  That works during the day, but overnight you have to worry about people using your car for various things and leaving various potentially dangerous substances and items in your car.
  - whimsicalism 6y ago
    Could they not still do that if they broke your window? FWIW I have heard of many people having their window broken, I have not met anyone who had any of the concerns that people have about leaving their car unlocked actually happen to them.
    - tshaddox 6y ago
      Yes, they could do it either way.
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jeffbee 6y ago

That's how you can tell it was a survey of drivers, not generally of people moving about in the city. Parking would not be a concern for the majority of trips that happen without a car.

meowkit 6y ago

Parking is not really a problem for self driving cars. Most people will use them as services. If you want to own one, then its a problem. But by the time individual can buy one I would bet they can just drive themselves around or to a distant location and wait for recall.

akira2501 6y ago
> Most people will use them as services. So we're just shifting the parking problem to a rush hour availability problem? Parking isn't merely an unnatural or unfortunate phenomenon. > or to a distant location and wait for recall. Which is essentially identical to public transportation.
- dwohnitmok 6y ago
  > Which is essentially identical to public transportation. I disagree. It's worse, from a strictly time of transportation point of view, than having your own car, but point-to-point automated transportation with some initial recall latency is still leagues ahead of public transportation.

tchalla 6y ago

Here's a study from 2019 on the topic of self-driving cars and parking. > Self-driving cars will ‘cruise’ to avoid paying to park https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/self-driving-cars-will-cruise-avoid-paying-park https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/self-driving-car... The solution proposed by this study is "congestion pricing".

thaumasiotes 6y ago
The obvious solution would seem to be "the owner of a fleet of cars builds a parking garage for them".