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68% of the top links on Facebook since September are in support of Donald Trump
- slivanes 6y agoEngagement or enragement, it still is eyeballs on the article.
- cobraetor 6y agoThis shouldn't be surprising as Trump was recently found in a Gallup poll to be more admired than Obama and Biden. https://news.gallup.com/poll/328193/donald-trump-michelle-obama-admired-2020.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication https://news.gallup.com/poll/328193/donald-trump-michelle-ob... > Overall, 18% of Americans name Trump, 15% name Obama, 6% Biden and 3% Fauci. I do find it a tad bit curious that Biden, with a mere 6% approval rate, was certified to have won the election and Trump apparently lost it when he had thrice Biden's approval rate.
- MereInterest 6y agoThat's a remarkable misinterpretation of the survey. > Eighteen percent of the survey's respondents named Trump as their most admired man, compared to 15 percent who named Obama and 6 percent who named President-elect Joe Biden. Going from "named the most admired by a plurality" to "the most admired" is exactly the same flaw as in first-past-the-post voting.
- MatthiasWandel 6y agoGood point there, split between Obama and Biden. But there's only one like trump, and his fans are very passionate. That's what worked for him in 2016 too.
- Tarsul 6y agoat least that voting was in 2020 not 2021.
- IfOnlyYouKnew 6y agoThere was another survey in November where Biden was slightly ahead of Trump, however.
- ffggvv 6y agopresume its okay if its pro-biden :)
- TheIronYuppie 6y agoThe US is proveably 50/50-ish Unless Facebook has a strongly biased audience, it seems likely that their algorithms should represent the population. 68% pro Trump does not.
- dragonwriter 6y ago> The US is proveably 50/50-ish The “ish” does a lot of work there. > Unless Facebook has a strongly biased audience is If it doesn't, it would be one of the few media sources that didn't. Why wouldn't it?
- Sharlin 6y agoFacebook is also not a US-only site. And the international audience almost certainly leans (heavily?) anti-Trump. So there's that.
- TheIronYuppie 6y agoGood point! That makes this even worse for US representation
- TheIronYuppie 6y ago> The “ish” does a lot of work there. In what way? The US is proveably 51.3% Democrat, 46.5% Republican. I was reducing significant digits because I don’t know the specific split for people who didn’t vote. > If it doesn't, it would be one of the few media sources that didn't. Why wouldn't it? Not sure your source on this one. Even Fox is only 53% Republicans, and MSNBC is only 62% Democratic (https://pos.org/whos-watching-a-look-at-the-demographics-of-cable-news-channel-watchers/ https://pos.org/whos-watching-a-look-at-the-demographics-of-...). This blows them away.
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- macspoofing 6y agoBen Shapiro and Dan Bongino, and 'conservative media' are alt-right now? Great journalism here. This doofus author clearly shows what he's about.
- p1necone 6y agoYou're going to have to explain why you don't think Ben Shapiro is alt-right, he's basically a poster child for them.
- quercus 6y agoSounds like you don't know the difference between right and alt-right.
- FFRefresh 6y agoWhat does 'alt' mean when added as a prefix to left or right to you? What % of people on the right would you consider alt-right? What % of people on the left would you consider alt-left?
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- FFRefresh 6y agoI disagree, I think the usage and meaning of 'alt' is in fact complicated. I've asked many other people this same question and they've all given different answers. The core underlying theme is that 'alt' gets used as a pejorative towards your outgroup. Your descriptions of the right here are quite uncharitable, which is a strong signal of your biased thinking. You also conveniently didn't answer my question about % of the right you'd classify as 'alt-right' and the % of the left that you'd classify as 'alt-left'. I suspect the reason you chose not to is because of that same bias. It would make clear that you use 'alt' as a pejorative selectively towards your outgroup.
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- spamizbad 6y agoNot surprising considering Facebook's demographics in the United States.
- cobraetor 6y agoAlso given the fact that Trump's rallies were attended to in extremely larger numbers compared to that of Biden's, and the new White House videos being downvoted heavily in YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/WhiteHouse/videos https://www.youtube.com/c/WhiteHouse/videos *edit: Responding to a comment below, > I very much doubt he even won the election We have to be extremely careful when alleging election fraud. I think that may be perceived to be divisive. It would be more fruitful to directly link to the individual allegations instead: https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/12/what-youve-been-asking-for-a-fairly-complete-list-of-some-of-the-most-significant-claims-of-2020-election-miscounts-errors-or-fraud/ https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/12/what-youve-been-asking-f... In 2 days, SCOTUS will hear some of these cases: https://visiontimes.com/2021/02/17/the-supreme-court-will-look-into-election-lawsuits-in-february.html https://visiontimes.com/2021/02/17/the-supreme-court-will-lo...
- p1necone 6y agoYou do realize that that makes Trump and his supporters look worse not better? Considering there's currently a pandemic going on.
- akhilcacharya 6y agoIndeed, the silent majority of this country voted for Biden.
- MuffinFlavored 6y agoBiden is president because of like 62,000 votes across 4 different states.
- cobraetor 6y agoAnd SCOTUS has planned to look at the cases in two days: > The United States Supreme Court will be looking into election fraud lawsuits during its Feb. 19 conference. These lawsuits include two cases filed by the Trump campaign and one case, each filed by Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, and Republican Representative Mike Kelly. https://visiontimes.com/2021/02/17/the-supreme-court-will-look-into-election-lawsuits-in-february.html https://visiontimes.com/2021/02/17/the-supreme-court-will-lo...
- cm2187 6y agoThis is bullshit. There is a much smaller number of conservative news websites or tv channels compared to democrats, though the population is roughly 50/50, so of course the few conservative outlets individually attracts more traffic hence appearing more often in top links, but not in aggregate.
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- ladberg 6y agoDo you have any sources for that claim?
- throwawaymanbot 6y agoYou mustn’t assume that just because an outlet does not want lies and half truths being broadcast that that makes it Democrat media or Liberal media.
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- andyxor 6y agoKevin Roose, the NYT reporter, is known to promote blatant misinformation and manipulate facts to suite a particular political agenda, e.g. see his recent hit piece on Slate Star Codex. This is the worst kind of "journalism". https://reason.com/2021/02/15/what-the-new-york-times-hit-piece-on-slate-star-codex-says-about-media-gatekeeping/ https://reason.com/2021/02/15/what-the-new-york-times-hit-pi... https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/statement-on-new-york-times-article https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/statement-on-new-york-...
- p1necone 6y agoIf you're still defending republicans at this point you're not noble, or patriotic, or a defender of free speech. You're just a sucker (or you're acting in bad faith because you have no empathy, I'm not sure which one is worse). If you're genuinely just a conservative I feel for you, you don't have a party on your side that isn't blatantly corrupt. But you can't just blindly bat for them anyway despite what they're doing, that's fucking evil.
- jancsika 6y agoI'm imagining a alternate version of git where you do `git log` or some such other subcommand, and the output comes from the aggregate of every local clone that has ever existed. So someone writes an alarming story that 68% of the kernel code is in such a broken state it actually doesn't even compile correctly. Ok, but what would that mean for such a weirdo, broken piece of software? That most users download, tinker, get frustrated and never come back? That Linus is incompetent? That there's one troll out there continually cloning master and breaking it to write a story about? That there's N such trolls? To me, the only information to glean from that would be that this alt-git would be a massive pile of garbage. The difference with Facebook is that its userbase doesn't have the competency or necessary source/data access to, say, leverage a hash to grab the goods and fork the thing into a non-stupid, workable piece of software. A non-negligible number of their users keep using it as a source of news. The Qanon bullshit is basically a pentest that shows the content of this headline could literally be anything at all when it comes to Facebook. It'd be absurd to spend time discussing what exactly it is about Tom Hanks that makes people think he eats babies. The topic should be how the hell we are going to stop FAANG from enumerating through every socially destructive set of lucrative dark patterns before this stops. Edit: clarification