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_Are_ cancels intended to be permanent? I posted about the only cancel I've intentionally been involved in elsewhere: I like an artist named DojaKat. A while

_Are_ cancels intended to be permanent? I posted about the only cancel I've intentionally been involved in elsewhere: I like an artist named DojaKat. A while ago a video surfaced of her singing a song with a racial slur in it. I saw the video and said to myself "Oh man, I don't want to support a racist artist, this sucks, but I don't think I should stream her on Spotify anymore (In my mind, that was the cancel). Some weeks later, DojaKat released a video in which she apologized, talked about how much she's grown as a person, and promised to do better. It seemed sincere to me, so I added her work back to my Spotify playlists. Am I correctly interpreting that as a cancel?

munificent 6y ago
> _Are_ cancels intended to be permanent? I mean, I'm no authority on any of this. But my impression is that most of the high profile cancelations I've seen have no attached list of demands at which point the person is considered to have made amends and can return to their previous stature. > Am I correctly interpreting that as a cancel? Unless you were publicly telling other people that they shouldn't stream her then I wouldn't interpret it as any kind of "cancel". We're all free to stop consuming from anyone for whatever reason we like. That's not canceling people, it's just having a preference.
- mathgorges 6y ago
  Since cancels arise out of conversation and theres no central organizer I don't see how a cancel _could_ have a list of demands. At the same time, I'm sure the individuals who are opting to not support could conceivably be swayed back into supporting the creator in most cases. I guess my point is that theres a de facto list of demands in most cancels, you just don't see them because theres no central authority to reiterate it. ____ I didn't tell other people to stop streaming her, but I learned about the video and chose to boycott because other people were telling me to do so. If I had posted on Facebook: "I saw an old video where DojaKat used an offensive racial slur, and have thusly chosen to stop consuming her music. Here is the video for your reference" Would that have constituted cancelling? I'm just expressing my preference to my friends, no?

munificent 6y ago

> _Are_ cancels intended to be permanent? I mean, I'm no authority on any of this. But my impression is that most of the high profile cancelations I've seen have no attached list of demands at which point the person is considered to have made amends and can return to their previous stature. > Am I correctly interpreting that as a cancel? Unless you were publicly telling other people that they shouldn't stream her then I wouldn't interpret it as any kind of "cancel". We're all free to stop consuming from anyone for whatever reason we like. That's not canceling people, it's just having a preference.

mathgorges 6y ago
Since cancels arise out of conversation and theres no central organizer I don't see how a cancel _could_ have a list of demands. At the same time, I'm sure the individuals who are opting to not support could conceivably be swayed back into supporting the creator in most cases. I guess my point is that theres a de facto list of demands in most cancels, you just don't see them because theres no central authority to reiterate it. ____ I didn't tell other people to stop streaming her, but I learned about the video and chose to boycott because other people were telling me to do so. If I had posted on Facebook: "I saw an old video where DojaKat used an offensive racial slur, and have thusly chosen to stop consuming her music. Here is the video for your reference" Would that have constituted cancelling? I'm just expressing my preference to my friends, no?