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This is a good thread, thanks. I'm reading through the articles now, and have concerns that the author is over editorializing at least some of them. I know fo

This is a good thread, thanks. I'm reading through the articles now, and have concerns that the author is over editorializing at least some of them. I know for a fact Kindness Yoga is doing fine, I walk past there daily.

hackinthebochs 6y ago
The targets of cancel culture don't always get completely buried, just like attempts at murder don't always succeed. That doesn't mean it wasn't an attempted murder or an attempted cancelling.
- mathgorges 6y ago
  Sure, but my point is that the thread author said: > 2. A yoga studio that was so woke they had gender-neutral bathrooms and person-of-color yoga nights where “white friends and allies” were asked to “respectfully refrain from attending” has closed down due to racial accusations. That was a lie. Kindness Yoga didn’t close down. So I’d advise others to take the thread author’s words with a grain of salt.
  - wk_end 6y ago
    Calling it a lie might be a bit unfair. The news article from June 29th it links to says that they'd be shutting down, and the tweet was less than two weeks on. I found another news story from July 10th [1] - two days before the tweet went out - repeating the intention to shut down permanently, and another from August [2] that affirms that a shutdown happened. So at the time the author of the thread was in good faith relaying the truth. I can't find any news stories indicating that it reopened, so unless you expect the author to live in Denver or be following closely every single example he provides months after the fact, I don't think this is a reasonable criticism. ETA: Actually, their social media appears dead since June; Yelp shows many locations closed, and the locations it doesn't show as closed have, uh, poems written in memory of them...so I'm wondering if it actually did shutdown and you're not just mistakenly thinking of/talking about a different yoga studio entirely. [1] https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/07/10/denver-yoga-studios-diversity-racism/241589/ https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/07/10/denver-yoga-studio... [2] https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/08/07/courageous-yoga-bipoc-lgbtq-yoga/242559/ https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/08/07/courageous-yoga-bi...
  - jshevek 6y ago
    Are you saying that because they are now open, they never closed down?
  - jshevek 6y ago
    You make assertions which would require that the author was mistaken, while ungraciously and unfairly accusing them of lying. Posted elsewhere in this thread is evidence suggesting the possiblity that you may, in fact, have been mistaken. Can you provide evidence to the contrary?
    - mathgorges 6y ago
      You can schedule a class on their website *today*. I'll grant that it's more likely a mistake than an outright lie. I'd still recommend that you read what the thread author says with a grain of salt as they aren't corroborating the claims they're repeating. If you dig into the sourcing if the Colorado Sun's article, it cites an Instagram post[1] as evidence the business is closing, but the post says no such thing. [1]: https://www.instagram.com/p/CBotnpslXVj/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CBotnpslXVj/
      - jshevek 6y ago
        > If you dig into the sourcing if the Colorado Sun's article, it cites an Instagram post[1] as evidence the business is closing, but the post says no such thing In that post, they announced that they will be closing, with the proximal cause being a surge of cancelations immediately after the accusations. I cannot copy paste the text as its within the images. Edit: "...I have decided to close Kindness Yoga." Previous slide uses vague, passive, avoidant language to reference the accusations.
- jawarner 6y ago
  I’m skeptical. By that logic, isn’t any voice of disapproval an attempted cancelling?

hackinthebochs 6y ago

The targets of cancel culture don't always get completely buried, just like attempts at murder don't always succeed. That doesn't mean it wasn't an attempted murder or an attempted cancelling.

mathgorges 6y ago
Sure, but my point is that the thread author said: > 2. A yoga studio that was so woke they had gender-neutral bathrooms and person-of-color yoga nights where “white friends and allies” were asked to “respectfully refrain from attending” has closed down due to racial accusations. That was a lie. Kindness Yoga didn’t close down. So I’d advise others to take the thread author’s words with a grain of salt.
- wk_end 6y ago
  Calling it a lie might be a bit unfair. The news article from June 29th it links to says that they'd be shutting down, and the tweet was less than two weeks on. I found another news story from July 10th [1] - two days before the tweet went out - repeating the intention to shut down permanently, and another from August [2] that affirms that a shutdown happened. So at the time the author of the thread was in good faith relaying the truth. I can't find any news stories indicating that it reopened, so unless you expect the author to live in Denver or be following closely every single example he provides months after the fact, I don't think this is a reasonable criticism. ETA: Actually, their social media appears dead since June; Yelp shows many locations closed, and the locations it doesn't show as closed have, uh, poems written in memory of them...so I'm wondering if it actually did shutdown and you're not just mistakenly thinking of/talking about a different yoga studio entirely. [1] https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/07/10/denver-yoga-studios-diversity-racism/241589/ https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/07/10/denver-yoga-studio... [2] https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/08/07/courageous-yoga-bipoc-lgbtq-yoga/242559/ https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/08/07/courageous-yoga-bi...
- jshevek 6y ago
  Are you saying that because they are now open, they never closed down?
- jshevek 6y ago
  You make assertions which would require that the author was mistaken, while ungraciously and unfairly accusing them of lying. Posted elsewhere in this thread is evidence suggesting the possiblity that you may, in fact, have been mistaken. Can you provide evidence to the contrary?
  - mathgorges 6y ago
    You can schedule a class on their website *today*. I'll grant that it's more likely a mistake than an outright lie. I'd still recommend that you read what the thread author says with a grain of salt as they aren't corroborating the claims they're repeating. If you dig into the sourcing if the Colorado Sun's article, it cites an Instagram post[1] as evidence the business is closing, but the post says no such thing. [1]: https://www.instagram.com/p/CBotnpslXVj/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CBotnpslXVj/
    - jshevek 6y ago
      > If you dig into the sourcing if the Colorado Sun's article, it cites an Instagram post[1] as evidence the business is closing, but the post says no such thing In that post, they announced that they will be closing, with the proximal cause being a surge of cancelations immediately after the accusations. I cannot copy paste the text as its within the images. Edit: "...I have decided to close Kindness Yoga." Previous slide uses vague, passive, avoidant language to reference the accusations.
jawarner 6y ago
I’m skeptical. By that logic, isn’t any voice of disapproval an attempted cancelling?