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You’re point about cancel culture being against _private_ individuals is new to me. Where I think of people who have been cancelled I only think about celebrit

You’re point about cancel culture being against _private_ individuals is new to me. Where I think of people who have been cancelled I only think about celebrities. Reading about Justine Sacco’s story was interesting. Do you know where I can learn more about private individuals being cancelled? (Googling only brings up celebs)

mrec 6y ago
Emmanuel Cafferty is one (extreme) example that springs to mind: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/stop-firing-innocent/613615/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/stop-firin... Also any number of academics, who wouldn't normally be considered celebrities or politicians: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/09/08/professor-suspended-saying-chinese-word-sounds-english-slur https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/09/08/professor-sus...
wk_end 6y ago
Someone on HN once linked this Twitter thread and I made a point of jotting it down. https://mobile.twitter.com/sooppressed/status/1282404647160942598 https://mobile.twitter.com/sooppressed/status/12824046471609... I feel a real urge to say, for the record, that I don’t consider myself strongly “anti-cancel culture” or whatever, just that I understand the skepticism towards it and think that it’s referring to something that exists and at the very least has amped up since the end of the Bush administration. Although, truth be told, I doubt that’d be enough if my turn comes, and maybe all that just proves the anti-CC people’s point.
- mathgorges 6y ago
  This is a good thread, thanks. I'm reading through the articles now, and have concerns that the author is over editorializing at least some of them. I know for a fact Kindness Yoga is doing fine, I walk past there daily.
  - hackinthebochs 6y ago
    The targets of cancel culture don't always get completely buried, just like attempts at murder don't always succeed. That doesn't mean it wasn't an attempted murder or an attempted cancelling.
    - mathgorges 6y ago
      Sure, but my point is that the thread author said: > 2. A yoga studio that was so woke they had gender-neutral bathrooms and person-of-color yoga nights where “white friends and allies” were asked to “respectfully refrain from attending” has closed down due to racial accusations. That was a lie. Kindness Yoga didn’t close down. So I’d advise others to take the thread author’s words with a grain of salt.
      - wk_end 6y ago
        Calling it a lie might be a bit unfair. The news article from June 29th it links to says that they'd be shutting down, and the tweet was less than two weeks on. I found another news story from July 10th [1] - two days before the tweet went out - repeating the intention to shut down permanently, and another from August [2] that affirms that a shutdown happened. So at the time the author of the thread was in good faith relaying the truth. I can't find any news stories indicating that it reopened, so unless you expect the author to live in Denver or be following closely every single example he provides months after the fact, I don't think this is a reasonable criticism. ETA: Actually, their social media appears dead since June; Yelp shows many locations closed, and the locations it doesn't show as closed have, uh, poems written in memory of them...so I'm wondering if it actually did shutdown and you're not just mistakenly thinking of/talking about a different yoga studio entirely. [1] https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/07/10/denver-yoga-studios-diversity-racism/241589/ https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/07/10/denver-yoga-studio... [2] https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/08/07/courageous-yoga-bipoc-lgbtq-yoga/242559/ https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/08/07/courageous-yoga-bi...
      - jshevek 6y ago
        Are you saying that because they are now open, they never closed down?
- fl0wenol 6y ago
  Yeah, but huge grain of salt there. Several of references in that thread are being twisted out of proportion. Also, they couldn't be bothered to find single example where someone is being "canceled" or ridiculed for being too PC, which makes me think this is an axe-grind-with-the-left issue and less decrying the practice.
  - klyrs 6y ago
    There are a plethora of examples. Republicans who disagree with Trump are getting labeled "RINO" and censured by their parties.
chordalkeyboard 6y ago
“So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed” Jon Ronson

mrec 6y ago

Emmanuel Cafferty is one (extreme) example that springs to mind: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/stop-firing-innocent/613615/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/stop-firin... Also any number of academics, who wouldn't normally be considered celebrities or politicians: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/09/08/professor-suspended-saying-chinese-word-sounds-english-slur https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/09/08/professor-sus...

wk_end 6y ago

Someone on HN once linked this Twitter thread and I made a point of jotting it down. https://mobile.twitter.com/sooppressed/status/1282404647160942598 https://mobile.twitter.com/sooppressed/status/12824046471609... I feel a real urge to say, for the record, that I don’t consider myself strongly “anti-cancel culture” or whatever, just that I understand the skepticism towards it and think that it’s referring to something that exists and at the very least has amped up since the end of the Bush administration. Although, truth be told, I doubt that’d be enough if my turn comes, and maybe all that just proves the anti-CC people’s point.

mathgorges 6y ago
This is a good thread, thanks. I'm reading through the articles now, and have concerns that the author is over editorializing at least some of them. I know for a fact Kindness Yoga is doing fine, I walk past there daily.
- hackinthebochs 6y ago
  The targets of cancel culture don't always get completely buried, just like attempts at murder don't always succeed. That doesn't mean it wasn't an attempted murder or an attempted cancelling.
  - mathgorges 6y ago
    Sure, but my point is that the thread author said: > 2. A yoga studio that was so woke they had gender-neutral bathrooms and person-of-color yoga nights where “white friends and allies” were asked to “respectfully refrain from attending” has closed down due to racial accusations. That was a lie. Kindness Yoga didn’t close down. So I’d advise others to take the thread author’s words with a grain of salt.
    - wk_end 6y ago
      Calling it a lie might be a bit unfair. The news article from June 29th it links to says that they'd be shutting down, and the tweet was less than two weeks on. I found another news story from July 10th [1] - two days before the tweet went out - repeating the intention to shut down permanently, and another from August [2] that affirms that a shutdown happened. So at the time the author of the thread was in good faith relaying the truth. I can't find any news stories indicating that it reopened, so unless you expect the author to live in Denver or be following closely every single example he provides months after the fact, I don't think this is a reasonable criticism. ETA: Actually, their social media appears dead since June; Yelp shows many locations closed, and the locations it doesn't show as closed have, uh, poems written in memory of them...so I'm wondering if it actually did shutdown and you're not just mistakenly thinking of/talking about a different yoga studio entirely. [1] https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/07/10/denver-yoga-studios-diversity-racism/241589/ https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/07/10/denver-yoga-studio... [2] https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/08/07/courageous-yoga-bipoc-lgbtq-yoga/242559/ https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/08/07/courageous-yoga-bi...
    - jshevek 6y ago
      Are you saying that because they are now open, they never closed down?
fl0wenol 6y ago
Yeah, but huge grain of salt there. Several of references in that thread are being twisted out of proportion. Also, they couldn't be bothered to find single example where someone is being "canceled" or ridiculed for being too PC, which makes me think this is an axe-grind-with-the-left issue and less decrying the practice.
- klyrs 6y ago
  There are a plethora of examples. Republicans who disagree with Trump are getting labeled "RINO" and censured by their parties.

chordalkeyboard 6y ago

“So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed” Jon Ronson