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How about... we do both? Because it's not exactly too much effort to set up an atom and rss feed to go along with your email newsletter. Can we stop (subtly in

How about... we do both? Because it's not exactly too much effort to set up an atom and rss feed to go along with your email newsletter. Can we stop (subtly in this case, not so subtly in others) crusading against tech that we don't personally like, when thousands upon thousands rely on it because that's the format they're comfortable with and want to receive periodicals in? Set up a system that meets people where they are instead of forcing them into only your preferred delivery flavour.

sgeisler 6y ago
Isn't that exactly what the submission is about? It seems to be a tool to convert any newsletter into an atom feed by creating a fake inbox. This lets everyone consume the content in their preferred format. Sure it would be nice if newsletters were available as news feeds too, but in the meantime this is a nice hack.
- iamdamian 6y ago
  I’d guess that the OP is responding to the phrase “kill the newsletter” rather than the specific tool.
  - TheRealPomax 6y ago
    that. It's a perfectly fine tool, but "kill the newsletter" is an incredibly bad rallying cry and should be questioned.
    - mfbx9da4 6y ago
      it's just a catchy name!
      - werds 6y ago
        this guy gets it! the thing which annoys me the most about hacker news comments is the pedantry: "how about stop trying to kill technology you don't like" shhhhh
        TheRealPomax 6y ago
        welcome to hacker news, if you didn't want to see pedantry, you might be hanging out with the wrong crowd ;)
        iamdamian 6y ago
        I'm not sure I'd call this pedantry, just maybe a different angle or focus than the one you have in mind. Is that fair?
asjldkfin 6y ago
I know you mean well, but this post is genuinely idiotic and the definition of a straw-man argument. That, or you did not even bother clicking into the link and see what it is.
- TheRealPomax 6y ago
  I did, I'm taking exception with the whole "kill the newsletter" rallying cry. It's a bad call, and any "kill X!" should be questioned even if what it's used to market is a perfectly fine tool.
malandrew 6y ago
It would be nice if GMail pioneered this by adding an RSS reader to Gmail and automatically unsubscribing you from newsletters that have a RSS feed and automatically subscribing your to the RSS feed. I really want my inbox back, but I feel like I'm constantly battling lists I get subscribed to that I didn't ask to be subscribed to.
betwixthewires 6y ago
Well, tools like this one enable a publisher to pick their format and enable a user to pick their format, so it's kind of the opposite of flaming your less desired format. It's a compatibility layer. People who flame a format they don't like are just trying to ensure that their preferred one stays relevant. I am not a fan of email subscription and I love Atom and RSS. If I didn't constantly remind people about the pros of feeds and the cons of email subscriptions, before I know it most websites will drop feeds and pop up asking me to subscribe to their newsletter...

sgeisler 6y ago

Isn't that exactly what the submission is about? It seems to be a tool to convert any newsletter into an atom feed by creating a fake inbox. This lets everyone consume the content in their preferred format. Sure it would be nice if newsletters were available as news feeds too, but in the meantime this is a nice hack.

iamdamian 6y ago
I’d guess that the OP is responding to the phrase “kill the newsletter” rather than the specific tool.
- TheRealPomax 6y ago
  that. It's a perfectly fine tool, but "kill the newsletter" is an incredibly bad rallying cry and should be questioned.
  - mfbx9da4 6y ago
    it's just a catchy name!
    - werds 6y ago
      this guy gets it! the thing which annoys me the most about hacker news comments is the pedantry: "how about stop trying to kill technology you don't like" shhhhh
      - TheRealPomax 6y ago
        welcome to hacker news, if you didn't want to see pedantry, you might be hanging out with the wrong crowd ;)
      - iamdamian 6y ago
        I'm not sure I'd call this pedantry, just maybe a different angle or focus than the one you have in mind. Is that fair?

asjldkfin 6y ago

I know you mean well, but this post is genuinely idiotic and the definition of a straw-man argument. That, or you did not even bother clicking into the link and see what it is.

TheRealPomax 6y ago
I did, I'm taking exception with the whole "kill the newsletter" rallying cry. It's a bad call, and any "kill X!" should be questioned even if what it's used to market is a perfectly fine tool.

malandrew 6y ago

It would be nice if GMail pioneered this by adding an RSS reader to Gmail and automatically unsubscribing you from newsletters that have a RSS feed and automatically subscribing your to the RSS feed. I really want my inbox back, but I feel like I'm constantly battling lists I get subscribed to that I didn't ask to be subscribed to.

betwixthewires 6y ago

Well, tools like this one enable a publisher to pick their format and enable a user to pick their format, so it's kind of the opposite of flaming your less desired format. It's a compatibility layer. People who flame a format they don't like are just trying to ensure that their preferred one stays relevant. I am not a fan of email subscription and I love Atom and RSS. If I didn't constantly remind people about the pros of feeds and the cons of email subscriptions, before I know it most websites will drop feeds and pop up asking me to subscribe to their newsletter...