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Then keep using the curated store? It only hurts if Apple's store can't compete with alternative ones. There's no such problem on Android because developers and

Then keep using the curated store? It only hurts if Apple's store can't compete with alternative ones. There's no such problem on Android because developers and users are fine with the Play Store. Epic even tried doing a sideloaded Fortnite for Android and people didn't download it, so they came back.

zepto 6y ago
This keeps getting repeated but is false. New stores will pay for exclusives rights to popular apps just as video streaming platforms do for video. Users will have no choice but to use a jumble of different stores.
- chungus_khan 6y ago
  Then why hasn't it happened? Android has always had sideloading and this is not the case. Just asserting it to be false isn't convincing.
  - zepto 6y ago
    Why doesn’t Epic have an Android App Store? If they want an independent store, there is no reason for them not to create one for Android. If Android was a model for what Epic wants, they would have built a store there. It’s pretty obvious that this is just about them going where the money is.
    - chungus_khan 6y ago
      As I said, they tried and failed because nobody downloaded it. I'm not sure why you're suddenly bringing Epic's motives into a comment chain about the desirability of sideloading though? Epic is obviously looking to skirt store fees and doesn't actually prefer to run their own store, but that has nothing to do with anything above in the chain.
      - zepto 6y ago
        The post is about Epic. Do you think anyone would install alternative stores on iOS? If so, Android is obviously an irrelevant comparison. Epic clearly believes iOS is different from Android.
        chungus_khan 6y ago
        I don't think most people would. I think most sideloading would be by users making things that fall outside of what Apple allows on their store, like on Android. I see no coherent reason at all why things would be any different on iOS, and nobody has presented one here beyond just asserting the premise that it would be different, and I don't think "Epic believes it is" is a convincing argument.
        zepto 6y ago
        > I don't think most people would. Why wouldn’t Facebook just integrate a store into their App? Why wouldn’t Google advertise their store in the search engine just as they did with Chrome? Why wouldn’t their store ship with an Android runtime? Epic doesn’t just believe it would be different. They are prepared to invest millions of dollars. All there of these are obvious and coherent reasons why it would be different.
        chungus_khan 6y ago
        These are not coherent reasons why it would be different, they are assertions that you think it would be. None of them even speak to any difference between the platforms. Just saying that it will be isn't a reason. None of this has happened. Every attempt at doing this has failed horribly. Most users are not technically capable enough to even go about installing an alternative store. Why, given that this has not happened in the case of the leading mobile platform, and in fact all attempts to even mildly break with the play store have been resounding failures, would iOS be any different?
        zepto 6y ago

zepto 6y ago

This keeps getting repeated but is false. New stores will pay for exclusives rights to popular apps just as video streaming platforms do for video. Users will have no choice but to use a jumble of different stores.

chungus_khan 6y ago
Then why hasn't it happened? Android has always had sideloading and this is not the case. Just asserting it to be false isn't convincing.
- zepto 6y ago
  Why doesn’t Epic have an Android App Store? If they want an independent store, there is no reason for them not to create one for Android. If Android was a model for what Epic wants, they would have built a store there. It’s pretty obvious that this is just about them going where the money is.
  - chungus_khan 6y ago
    As I said, they tried and failed because nobody downloaded it. I'm not sure why you're suddenly bringing Epic's motives into a comment chain about the desirability of sideloading though? Epic is obviously looking to skirt store fees and doesn't actually prefer to run their own store, but that has nothing to do with anything above in the chain.
    - zepto 6y ago
      The post is about Epic. Do you think anyone would install alternative stores on iOS? If so, Android is obviously an irrelevant comparison. Epic clearly believes iOS is different from Android.
      - chungus_khan 6y ago
        I don't think most people would. I think most sideloading would be by users making things that fall outside of what Apple allows on their store, like on Android. I see no coherent reason at all why things would be any different on iOS, and nobody has presented one here beyond just asserting the premise that it would be different, and I don't think "Epic believes it is" is a convincing argument.
        zepto 6y ago
        > I don't think most people would. Why wouldn’t Facebook just integrate a store into their App? Why wouldn’t Google advertise their store in the search engine just as they did with Chrome? Why wouldn’t their store ship with an Android runtime? Epic doesn’t just believe it would be different. They are prepared to invest millions of dollars. All there of these are obvious and coherent reasons why it would be different.
        chungus_khan 6y ago
        These are not coherent reasons why it would be different, they are assertions that you think it would be. None of them even speak to any difference between the platforms. Just saying that it will be isn't a reason. None of this has happened. Every attempt at doing this has failed horribly. Most users are not technically capable enough to even go about installing an alternative store. Why, given that this has not happened in the case of the leading mobile platform, and in fact all attempts to even mildly break with the play store have been resounding failures, would iOS be any different?
        zepto 6y ago