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I’m not here to argue about a hypothetical utopia where nobody on the planet has to make terrible choices to protect their life. I’m just providing a commentary
by leesalminen 6y ago
I’m not here to argue about a hypothetical utopia where nobody on the planet has to make terrible choices to protect their life. I’m just providing a commentary on the state of the world we do live in. Obviously this hypothetical utopia (or any step in that direction) would be superior to what we have now.
- ceejayoz 6y agoI like to think of "not being raped" as "bare minimum standard to strive for", not "hypothetical utopia".
- leesalminen 6y agoI was referring to the hypothetical utopia of “making sure people don't go hungry”, which is something that has never happened before in human history. But thanks for assuming negative intent.
- ceejayoz 6y agoThe world produces enough food to feed everyone. Doubly true if you scope things to the developed world. Triply true if you scope it to the USA only. "No one starves" is just as reasonable a minimum standard to strive for as "no one gets raped". Yes, there are serious implementation details, but there's a big societal will factor at play too.
- tomp 6y agoYou’re making a strawman argument. The difference is between “being a local singer vs being a superstar”, not “being hungry vs fed”.
- ceejayoz 6y agoThis thread stems from a comment that stated: > The fact that you wouldn’t even consider it shows that you haven’t gone hungry for a while.
- throwawayboise 6y agoI took that as a figurative statement. Hungry for success, or for a way out of a perceived poor future outlook, perhaps not literally hungry (for food).