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I suppose they also consider it a breach of human rights to disconnect users for harassing other users, spamming, DoSing, breaking into the ISP's own network, w

I suppose they also consider it a breach of human rights to disconnect users for harassing other users, spamming, DoSing, breaking into the ISP's own network, wire fraud, and so on. All is as much "free speech" and as equally illegal as warezing.

nate_meurer 15y ago
With some thought, a person might be able to come up with a rational objection to the rather subdued assertions in the UN's declaration. Your apples-to-oranges troll doesn't quite qualify.
- Tangaroa 15y ago
  Fuck you, asshole. You would not recognize a rational argument when you saw one, because you did see one and you called it an "apples-to-oranges troll". You can't explain how illegal activity which abuses the network is different from any other illegal activity which abuses the network. All you can do is insult me. I can insult you too. Fuck you, asshole.
  - nate_meurer 15y ago
    Ah, a splendid retort. I'm sorry, I didn't realize who I was talking to! "abuses the network" Yes, that poor network. However, observe that harassment, denial-of-service, wire fraud, etc, are not primarily illegal because they abuse the "network". Think a bit, and I bet you can figure out why they are illegal. Think a bit more, and I bet you can come up with some differences between a DDoS and a copyright infringement for non-commercial purposes, such that one might be considered an apple and the other an orange. That aside, I call you a troll for bringing up the free-speech strawman. Tell you what; go find me someone who believes that wire fraud or network intrusion is "free speech", and I will promptly return your testicles (or whatever else it is you think I have stolen from you) by mail. Some rules: this person cannot be in prison and cannot be related to you. One more request -- kindly stop abusing the network with your profanity.

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I suppose they also consider it a breach of human rights to disconnect users for harassing other users, spamming, DoSing, breaking into the ISP's own network, w

by Tangaroa 15y ago

nate_meurer 15y ago
With some thought, a person might be able to come up with a rational objection to the rather subdued assertions in the UN's declaration. Your apples-to-oranges troll doesn't quite qualify.
- Tangaroa 15y ago
  Fuck you, asshole. You would not recognize a rational argument when you saw one, because you did see one and you called it an "apples-to-oranges troll". You can't explain how illegal activity which abuses the network is different from any other illegal activity which abuses the network. All you can do is insult me. I can insult you too. Fuck you, asshole.
  - nate_meurer 15y ago
    Ah, a splendid retort. I'm sorry, I didn't realize who I was talking to! "abuses the network" Yes, that poor network. However, observe that harassment, denial-of-service, wire fraud, etc, are not primarily illegal because they abuse the "network". Think a bit, and I bet you can figure out why they are illegal. Think a bit more, and I bet you can come up with some differences between a DDoS and a copyright infringement for non-commercial purposes, such that one might be considered an apple and the other an orange. That aside, I call you a troll for bringing up the free-speech strawman. Tell you what; go find me someone who believes that wire fraud or network intrusion is "free speech", and I will promptly return your testicles (or whatever else it is you think I have stolen from you) by mail. Some rules: this person cannot be in prison and cannot be related to you. One more request -- kindly stop abusing the network with your profanity.