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Did the allergy doctor do a skin prick test with perfumes? Did I write anything that downplays your partner's problems? Perhaps you think that psycho-somatic

Did the allergy doctor do a skin prick test with perfumes? Did I write anything that downplays your partner's problems? Perhaps you think that psycho-somatic problems aren't common, or are somehow the fault of the people suffering from them? Psycho-somatic symptoms are real. I experienced them myself for many years. I do not dismiss your partner's symptoms. Human bodies are complicated and diverse. Finding solutions to health problems requires an open mind and effort to learn and try various potential solutions. Please try not to react defensively to this stranger's words. My intention is to help you and your partner. I am quite certain that your partner's perfume sensitivity and skin allergies are different biological processes. Allergies are a very specific process involving histamines and leading to inflammation. Nobody has demonstrated that process happening because of perfume in the air. It's possible that your partner's skin allergies flare up when the brain releases stress hormones. Stress affects the immune system in complicated ways. Stress can trigger hives [0]. That doesn't make them perfume allergies. Consider this process: Smells perfume -> brain enters fear emotion -> brain releases stress hormones -> immune system increases sensitivity -> infection alert goes off in areas of skin (hives) If this is the case, then you can prevent the hives by preventing the brain from entering the fear emotion state. [0] https://medlineplus.gov/hives.html https://medlineplus.gov/hives.html

cptskippy 6y ago
> Did I write anything that downplays your partner's problems? Yes, here are some examples: > Perfume sensitivity is something different. People develop emotional habits of reacting with fear when smelling perfume. > I am quite certain that your partner's perfume sensitivity and skin allergies are different biological processes. Allergies are a very specific process involving histamines and leading to inflammation. Nobody has demonstrated that process happening because of perfume in the air. You don't know anything about my partner's allergies and yet you're certain in your diagnosis. Here are some facts: * Contact dermatitis is the second most common allergic reaction. * Fragrance chemicals are the leading cause for contact allergies. * Airborne accute contact dermatitis has been studied extensively. I'm not sure how you've come to the conclusions you have but you're outright dismissing decades of scientific research and concluding that my partner's allergies are psycho-somatic. You're in league with new age medicine like healing crystals and tinctures. https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/cf8f/f7d8b5cb3f8c279b2d877af088af2f1a4e26.pdf https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/cf8f/f7d8b5cb3f8c279b2d877a... https://link.springer.com/article/10.2165/00128071-200304110-00006 https://link.springer.com/article/10.2165/00128071-200304110... https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1600-0536.2010.01739.x https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1600-0536....
- mleonhard 6y ago
  1. https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/cf8f/f7d8b5cb3f8c279b2d877af088af2f1a4e26.pdf https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/cf8f/f7d8b5cb3f8c279b2d877a... The first article you link is a review of Allergic Contact Dermatitis (ACD). This is for substances that stick to skin cells and then trigger an allergic reaction. I searched through that article for reports of allergy to airborne fragrance and found only one: > In 1 driver and 4 passengers, airborne ACD to such scents was diagnosed in Miami, FL [72]. It's from a short report from a hospital [0]. Five separate patients reported ACD related to driving or riding in separate Uber cars. The patients had positive patch tests for a fragrance (balsam of Peru). They did not analyze the substances in the driver's fragrance diffuser or the fragrances of the other cars. There are many possible explanations for the symptoms. Driving for Uber is a stressful job. And riding in Uber can be stressful, too, especially when the car has a bad smell that requires a powerful fragrance to cover up. So an equally plausible explanation of the five peoples' dermatitis is stress-induced dermatitis. All other reports in that article of airborne ACD are for industrial substances affecting people working in factories and labs which use the substances. A worker in an addiction treatment facility became allergic to airborne heroin and morphine. Somebody became allergic to airborne sawdust. 2. https://link.springer.com/article/10.2165/00128071-200304110-00006 https://link.springer.com/article/10.2165/00128071-200304110... The second article is titled "Fragrance Contact Allergy". You can read it at [1]. It studies fragrance substances that people apply to their skin. It contains this statement, with no references or further information: > Air-borne exposure to perfumes may elicit an allergic reaction in very sensitive individuals, but this is an extremely rare phenomenon. 3. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1600-0536.2010.01739.x https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1600-0536.... The third article you listed is titled "Fragrance contact allergy: a 4‐year retrospective study". You can read it at [2]. The article does not contain the word 'air' or 'airborne'. It studies fragrance substances that are applied to the skin. It does not talk about allergic reaction to airborne fragrances. I may be wrong. It's certainly possible that somebody somewhere has been allergic to airborne fragrances. But I found no credible evidence of that when I reviewed the scientific literature 4 years ago. And these three articles you linked also do not provide any evidence of it. If you find something concrete, or I missed something in the articles, please let me know. [0] https://sci-hub.do/https://doi.org/10.1111/cod.12804 https://sci-hub.do/https://doi.org/10.1111/cod.12804 [1] https://sci-hub.do/https://doi.org/10.2165/00128071-200304110-00006 https://sci-hub.do/https://doi.org/10.2165/00128071-20030411... [2] https://sci-hub.do/https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1600-0536.2010.01739.x https://sci-hub.do/https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1600-0536.2010....

cptskippy 6y ago

> Did I write anything that downplays your partner's problems? Yes, here are some examples: > Perfume sensitivity is something different. People develop emotional habits of reacting with fear when smelling perfume. > I am quite certain that your partner's perfume sensitivity and skin allergies are different biological processes. Allergies are a very specific process involving histamines and leading to inflammation. Nobody has demonstrated that process happening because of perfume in the air. You don't know anything about my partner's allergies and yet you're certain in your diagnosis. Here are some facts: * Contact dermatitis is the second most common allergic reaction. * Fragrance chemicals are the leading cause for contact allergies. * Airborne accute contact dermatitis has been studied extensively. I'm not sure how you've come to the conclusions you have but you're outright dismissing decades of scientific research and concluding that my partner's allergies are psycho-somatic. You're in league with new age medicine like healing crystals and tinctures. https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/cf8f/f7d8b5cb3f8c279b2d877af088af2f1a4e26.pdf https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/cf8f/f7d8b5cb3f8c279b2d877a... https://link.springer.com/article/10.2165/00128071-200304110-00006 https://link.springer.com/article/10.2165/00128071-200304110... https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1600-0536.2010.01739.x https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1600-0536....

mleonhard 6y ago
1. https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/cf8f/f7d8b5cb3f8c279b2d877af088af2f1a4e26.pdf https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/cf8f/f7d8b5cb3f8c279b2d877a... The first article you link is a review of Allergic Contact Dermatitis (ACD). This is for substances that stick to skin cells and then trigger an allergic reaction. I searched through that article for reports of allergy to airborne fragrance and found only one: > In 1 driver and 4 passengers, airborne ACD to such scents was diagnosed in Miami, FL [72]. It's from a short report from a hospital [0]. Five separate patients reported ACD related to driving or riding in separate Uber cars. The patients had positive patch tests for a fragrance (balsam of Peru). They did not analyze the substances in the driver's fragrance diffuser or the fragrances of the other cars. There are many possible explanations for the symptoms. Driving for Uber is a stressful job. And riding in Uber can be stressful, too, especially when the car has a bad smell that requires a powerful fragrance to cover up. So an equally plausible explanation of the five peoples' dermatitis is stress-induced dermatitis. All other reports in that article of airborne ACD are for industrial substances affecting people working in factories and labs which use the substances. A worker in an addiction treatment facility became allergic to airborne heroin and morphine. Somebody became allergic to airborne sawdust. 2. https://link.springer.com/article/10.2165/00128071-200304110-00006 https://link.springer.com/article/10.2165/00128071-200304110... The second article is titled "Fragrance Contact Allergy". You can read it at [1]. It studies fragrance substances that people apply to their skin. It contains this statement, with no references or further information: > Air-borne exposure to perfumes may elicit an allergic reaction in very sensitive individuals, but this is an extremely rare phenomenon. 3. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1600-0536.2010.01739.x https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1600-0536.... The third article you listed is titled "Fragrance contact allergy: a 4‐year retrospective study". You can read it at [2]. The article does not contain the word 'air' or 'airborne'. It studies fragrance substances that are applied to the skin. It does not talk about allergic reaction to airborne fragrances. I may be wrong. It's certainly possible that somebody somewhere has been allergic to airborne fragrances. But I found no credible evidence of that when I reviewed the scientific literature 4 years ago. And these three articles you linked also do not provide any evidence of it. If you find something concrete, or I missed something in the articles, please let me know. [0] https://sci-hub.do/https://doi.org/10.1111/cod.12804 https://sci-hub.do/https://doi.org/10.1111/cod.12804 [1] https://sci-hub.do/https://doi.org/10.2165/00128071-200304110-00006 https://sci-hub.do/https://doi.org/10.2165/00128071-20030411... [2] https://sci-hub.do/https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1600-0536.2010.01739.x https://sci-hub.do/https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1600-0536.2010....