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I'm mildly skeptical of any shortcuts that are based on "learning habits". I've already gotten enough of user interfaces that move items based on use all the ti

I'm mildly skeptical of any shortcuts that are based on "learning habits". I've already gotten enough of user interfaces that move items based on use all the time (The spotify playlist list is the worst offender - playlists move up and down in rank after every use, so there is never any spatial memory, startled every time).

andrewflnr 6y ago
It's very well hidden, but (at least on Android) there is an option to sort alphabetically. I was quite annoyed until I googled it and found out how to do it. I can't find it in the UI now despite having done it before... Anyway, I fully agree.
sjburt 6y ago
You press z, type a few letters and then hit tab until you get the thing you want. It's not spatial. If you use ctrl-r frequently it's similar.
- kleiba 6y ago
  Is there any advantage over CTRL-R?
  - reeestandard 6y ago
    With ctrl-R you'd presumably need a bunch of absolute path navigation commands in the past, with z you don't need to worry about that. There may be more clashes, like picking up on filenames instead of directories. Typing `z res` or whatever is also a bit faster than hitting ctrl-R then `res`.
- kzrdude 6y ago
  The examples show "z someinput" and enter, so then going to some place based on learned location for someinput, no? It's not spatial because it's text-based but a similar problem occurs if it can surprise you about which location is going to be used for each input.
flohofwoe 6y ago
I found the per-directory "suggest-while-typing" history in Fish (and Zsh with the right extension) very intuitive. It speeds up getting around the filesystem, and to common locations tremendously, and of course also remembers regular commands. And it "just works", there is nothing to setup and no commands to remember.
- hansel_der 6y ago
  tried fish for some time for the implicit completion but the otherwise excotic nature of the shell has caused me enough headaces to revert to bash and live with C-R
  - flohofwoe 6y ago
    I use zsh with this plugin: https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-autosuggestions https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-autosuggestions Best of both worlds, fish-like autocomplete combined with bash-compatibility :)

andrewflnr 6y ago

It's very well hidden, but (at least on Android) there is an option to sort alphabetically. I was quite annoyed until I googled it and found out how to do it. I can't find it in the UI now despite having done it before... Anyway, I fully agree.

sjburt 6y ago

You press z, type a few letters and then hit tab until you get the thing you want. It's not spatial. If you use ctrl-r frequently it's similar.

kleiba 6y ago
Is there any advantage over CTRL-R?
- reeestandard 6y ago
  With ctrl-R you'd presumably need a bunch of absolute path navigation commands in the past, with z you don't need to worry about that. There may be more clashes, like picking up on filenames instead of directories. Typing `z res` or whatever is also a bit faster than hitting ctrl-R then `res`.
kzrdude 6y ago
The examples show "z someinput" and enter, so then going to some place based on learned location for someinput, no? It's not spatial because it's text-based but a similar problem occurs if it can surprise you about which location is going to be used for each input.

flohofwoe 6y ago

I found the per-directory "suggest-while-typing" history in Fish (and Zsh with the right extension) very intuitive. It speeds up getting around the filesystem, and to common locations tremendously, and of course also remembers regular commands. And it "just works", there is nothing to setup and no commands to remember.

hansel_der 6y ago
tried fish for some time for the implicit completion but the otherwise excotic nature of the shell has caused me enough headaces to revert to bash and live with C-R
- flohofwoe 6y ago
  I use zsh with this plugin: https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-autosuggestions https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-autosuggestions Best of both worlds, fish-like autocomplete combined with bash-compatibility :)