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Is this sarcasm? Honestly can't tell.

choward 6y ago
It's either sarcasm or they have money in bitcoin and need people to buy into it so the price goes up. I can't tell either.
- fwiwm2c 6y ago
  I have been in Bitcoin since 2016 and have enjoyed my riches. The next wave of new users will come from institutions. Hacker News audience is not what will pump the price further.
  - choward 6y ago
    It sound like we're in agreement that it's a pump and dump scheme and not a true investment.
    - fwiwm2c 6y ago
      As they say - have fun staying poor. Think about it - if you had invested at any point in Bitcoin before today, you would have made money. But keep on resisting.
      - choward 6y ago
        > Think about it - if you had invested at any point in Bitcoin before today, you would have made money. But keep on resisting. That's irrelevant to me. It's not all about "getting rich". It's not like everyone can become rich off of bitcoin. The only way you make money is taking it from someone else. At the end of the day, real work needs to be done in the world.
        fwiwm2c 6y ago
        Lets assume it is a ponzi scheme and then make judgments based on that assumption.
        saalweachter 6y ago
        ... when people make money off Bitcoin, where does that money come from? At least when the scam is selling shares of an imaginary gold mine, there is hypothetically somewhere for the profits to come from. With Bitcoin, there is only a $12B/year loss to electricity charges and no where for money to come into the system but absurd transaction fees.
        fwiwm2c 6y ago
        My brain hurts when reading these silly replies. It is like you don't want to learn how things work. BTC has value because people assign to it and there is new money coming in (fiat converted to BTC) which is what makes the existing investors rich. You all do deserve to stay poor and be labeled as #nocoinists.
      - jb775 6y ago
        You could have said the same thing in December 2017 before it tanked and was lower for 3 years...with no one knowing if it would ever go back up. And give us one historic example of it being a good time to buy when the recent price chart looks like an exponential growth curve.
        fwiwm2c 6y ago
        For sure. But look at long term trends. Since 2008, the trend has just been up and towards the right.
fwiwm2c 6y ago
No it is not sarcasm. You all are missing out on the train going right in front of you. The point here is that you all are not even trying to understand the advantages of crypto - with innovations such as DeFi, NFT and Store of Value. For you, it comes back to Bitcoin wasting energy and the fact that it is being used by criminals. Keep on believing your theories while the rest of us become rich.
- azinman2 6y ago
  Your argument is just appealing to authority. You also assume I don't even have any bitcoin, and that I've never 'gotten in'. None of this answers my original questions as to why Bitcoin is a shrewd investment with long-term potential versus being a Ponzi scheme.
  - fwiwm2c 6y ago
    If you had taken some time to read about it, you would know better vs. putting your detailed uninformed comment. I am making an informed inference given the ignorance of your comment that you don't have any bitcoins or else you would actually take some time to research on it.

It's either sarcasm or they have money in bitcoin and need people to buy into it so the price goes up. I can't tell either.

fwiwm2c 6y ago
I have been in Bitcoin since 2016 and have enjoyed my riches. The next wave of new users will come from institutions. Hacker News audience is not what will pump the price further.
- choward 6y ago
  It sound like we're in agreement that it's a pump and dump scheme and not a true investment.
  - fwiwm2c 6y ago
    As they say - have fun staying poor. Think about it - if you had invested at any point in Bitcoin before today, you would have made money. But keep on resisting.
    - choward 6y ago
      > Think about it - if you had invested at any point in Bitcoin before today, you would have made money. But keep on resisting. That's irrelevant to me. It's not all about "getting rich". It's not like everyone can become rich off of bitcoin. The only way you make money is taking it from someone else. At the end of the day, real work needs to be done in the world.
      - fwiwm2c 6y ago
        Lets assume it is a ponzi scheme and then make judgments based on that assumption.
        saalweachter 6y ago
        ... when people make money off Bitcoin, where does that money come from? At least when the scam is selling shares of an imaginary gold mine, there is hypothetically somewhere for the profits to come from. With Bitcoin, there is only a $12B/year loss to electricity charges and no where for money to come into the system but absurd transaction fees.
        fwiwm2c 6y ago
        My brain hurts when reading these silly replies. It is like you don't want to learn how things work. BTC has value because people assign to it and there is new money coming in (fiat converted to BTC) which is what makes the existing investors rich. You all do deserve to stay poor and be labeled as #nocoinists.
    - jb775 6y ago
      You could have said the same thing in December 2017 before it tanked and was lower for 3 years...with no one knowing if it would ever go back up. And give us one historic example of it being a good time to buy when the recent price chart looks like an exponential growth curve.
      - fwiwm2c 6y ago
        For sure. But look at long term trends. Since 2008, the trend has just been up and towards the right.

fwiwm2c 6y ago

No it is not sarcasm. You all are missing out on the train going right in front of you. The point here is that you all are not even trying to understand the advantages of crypto - with innovations such as DeFi, NFT and Store of Value. For you, it comes back to Bitcoin wasting energy and the fact that it is being used by criminals. Keep on believing your theories while the rest of us become rich.

azinman2 6y ago
Your argument is just appealing to authority. You also assume I don't even have any bitcoin, and that I've never 'gotten in'. None of this answers my original questions as to why Bitcoin is a shrewd investment with long-term potential versus being a Ponzi scheme.
- fwiwm2c 6y ago
  If you had taken some time to read about it, you would know better vs. putting your detailed uninformed comment. I am making an informed inference given the ignorance of your comment that you don't have any bitcoins or else you would actually take some time to research on it.