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Transferring things like roads into private property for no reason at all seems dubious and certainly circumvents the spirit of what I'm going after. My main c

by kodah 6y ago

Transferring things like roads into private property for no reason at all seems dubious and certainly circumvents the spirit of what I'm going after. My main concerns are the US becoming a surveillance state (probably first and foremost - not to say we haven't already arrived or are well on our way) and secondarily the way average citizens are allowed to violate each other's privacy. Some can argue that when you are in public you assume zero privacy, but in a world where a local incident that be dealt with at a local level occurs, is recorded, and then goes viral multinationally or where bad actors want to be lazy we start to face issues where this simple understanding of privacy breaks down and has intersections like this one.

skissane 6y ago
> and then goes viral multinationally Maybe if we could (somehow) create some kind of cultural norm against that? Maybe the real solution to the problem you raise is cultural rather than legal? Maybe sometimes journalists and editors need to stop and say "no, we're not running this story, we are going to ignore it, some random nobody doing some offensive thing in some small town that nobody has ever heard of – that isn't news" A lot of these social media viral things get greatly amplified by the traditional media. Indeed, sometimes the two seem to act in a mutually reinforcing loop – traditional media coverage produces more social media which in turn encourages more coverage from the traditional media
- kodah 6y ago
  It's most certainly behavioral. I can look at the George Floyd case and say, "Here's an instance where whipping out your camera phone is beneficial" but the vast majority of cases are people just trying to embarrass each other via the metaphorical internet army. 4chan, when I was a kid, had a saying that went "not your personal army" that was organic from what I could tell and for precisely this purpose. I don't think you'll get that level of awareness out of post-2007 internet denizens.

by kodah 6y ago

skissane 6y ago

> and then goes viral multinationally Maybe if we could (somehow) create some kind of cultural norm against that? Maybe the real solution to the problem you raise is cultural rather than legal? Maybe sometimes journalists and editors need to stop and say "no, we're not running this story, we are going to ignore it, some random nobody doing some offensive thing in some small town that nobody has ever heard of – that isn't news" A lot of these social media viral things get greatly amplified by the traditional media. Indeed, sometimes the two seem to act in a mutually reinforcing loop – traditional media coverage produces more social media which in turn encourages more coverage from the traditional media

kodah 6y ago
It's most certainly behavioral. I can look at the George Floyd case and say, "Here's an instance where whipping out your camera phone is beneficial" but the vast majority of cases are people just trying to embarrass each other via the metaphorical internet army. 4chan, when I was a kid, had a saying that went "not your personal army" that was organic from what I could tell and for precisely this purpose. I don't think you'll get that level of awareness out of post-2007 internet denizens.