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Some workloads work better in native code.

by p0nce 6y ago

pjmlp 6y ago
C# also compiles to native code, just like D, csc isn't the only option.
- mastrsushi 6y ago
  If you're referring to .NET native, I dont think it's considered industry reliable.
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    Not only, there are others to chose from, and regarding .NET Native is reliable enough to build an whole business on top of it, Windows Store, upcoming Windows 10X, and the late Windows Phone definitely did not fail due to it.
    - mastrsushi 6y ago
      Then why is the rest of the C# world using traditional CLR?
      - pjmlp 6y ago
        For the same reason plenty of people here are completely unaware of what Java and .NET are fully capable of. Many just learn the minimum to deliver something.
- p0nce 6y ago
  But then you can't do reflection? Besides I'm in native space I never seen any native C#.
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    Come to Windows, iOS and Unity game development for consoles.
    - p0nce 6y ago
      Don't get me wrong I'm sure native C# is plenty fast and within acceptable speed range. It it were me, native code would be used at a last resort strategy. But perusing https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/ https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/ is still seems C# takes much more memory? It's strange as such benchmark don't expose much change between .net and .net aot
      - igouy 6y ago
        https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/fastest/csharpcore-csharpaot.html https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/... Maybe we're doing something wrong? Don't know what.
        p0nce 6y ago
        Looks like measuring the same thing twice.
        igouy 6y ago
        Once with /usr/bin/dotnet build -c Release --no-restore -r ubuntu-x64 and once with /usr/bin/dotnet publish -c Release --no-restore -r ubuntu-x64 --no-self-contained What should the second do for aot ?
        igouy 6y ago
        "Applications that have small amounts of code will likely not experience a significant improvement from enabling ReadyToRun, as the .NET runtime libraries have already been precompiled with ReadyToRun." https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/deploying/ready-to-run https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/deploying/ready...

Some workloads work better in native code.

by p0nce 6y ago

Some workloads work better in native code.

pjmlp 6y ago

C# also compiles to native code, just like D, csc isn't the only option.

mastrsushi 6y ago
If you're referring to .NET native, I dont think it's considered industry reliable.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  Not only, there are others to chose from, and regarding .NET Native is reliable enough to build an whole business on top of it, Windows Store, upcoming Windows 10X, and the late Windows Phone definitely did not fail due to it.
  - mastrsushi 6y ago
    Then why is the rest of the C# world using traditional CLR?
    - pjmlp 6y ago
      For the same reason plenty of people here are completely unaware of what Java and .NET are fully capable of. Many just learn the minimum to deliver something.
p0nce 6y ago
But then you can't do reflection? Besides I'm in native space I never seen any native C#.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  Come to Windows, iOS and Unity game development for consoles.
  - p0nce 6y ago
    Don't get me wrong I'm sure native C# is plenty fast and within acceptable speed range. It it were me, native code would be used at a last resort strategy. But perusing https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/ https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/ is still seems C# takes much more memory? It's strange as such benchmark don't expose much change between .net and .net aot
    - igouy 6y ago
      https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/fastest/csharpcore-csharpaot.html https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/... Maybe we're doing something wrong? Don't know what.
      - p0nce 6y ago
        Looks like measuring the same thing twice.
        igouy 6y ago
        Once with /usr/bin/dotnet build -c Release --no-restore -r ubuntu-x64 and once with /usr/bin/dotnet publish -c Release --no-restore -r ubuntu-x64 --no-self-contained What should the second do for aot ?
        igouy 6y ago
        "Applications that have small amounts of code will likely not experience a significant improvement from enabling ReadyToRun, as the .NET runtime libraries have already been precompiled with ReadyToRun." https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/deploying/ready-to-run https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/deploying/ready...