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I think the Big Brother heebie jeebies are justified. Amazon gives Police officers a script and coaching[1] to use to try to endorse their surveillance product
by fitblipper 6y ago
I think the Big Brother heebie jeebies are justified. Amazon gives Police officers a script and coaching[1] to use to try to endorse their surveillance products and to maximize participation in the "Ring as Big Brother feature".
Requesting video for law enforcement is automated to the point that all a police officer has to do (even without any judicial over-site!) is to drag and drop a square over a map on their computer and press a button. This sends the email identifying themselves as with the police and requested video data. Yes, this is voluntary for the person to grant access to that video but research[2] has shown that the VAST number of Americans will submit to a "consent search" simply because the Law Officer is in a position of power and people want to be seen as cooperative.
That is also just 1 way that police can get the footage, they can also easily go to Amazon themselves and get it without notifying the user.
[1]https://www.vice.com/en/article/43kga3/amazon-is-coaching-cops-on-how-to-obtain-surveillance-footage-without-a-warrant?xyz https://www.vice.com/en/article/43kga3/amazon-is-coaching-co...
[2]https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/01/so-called-consent-searches-harm-our-digital-rights https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/01/so-called-consent-sear...
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https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3369844 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3369844
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- mywittyname 6y ago> people want to be seen as cooperative. Or they are implicitly threatened. What will happen if refused? Will a warrant be obtained for the footage? Is non-consent considered obstruction? Will a local LO come by to try and convince me to consent. Most people don't know their rights and it not unusual for cops to blatantly disregard civil liberties anyway.
- bonestamp2 6y agoThis is a good point and raises a good point: There's a big difference between cooperating to provide footage of a crime vs providing a surveillance tool. I'd be more than happy to provide my camera's footage of a timeframe when a crime was committed. But, providing real time access to my camera before any crime is committed? That is exactly the big brother scenario I don't want my kids to grow up in.