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> If you are a materialist, how is this surprising? It's not. But there are other things, which should be surprising to a materialist: we don't see neuronal fi
by red75prime 6y ago
> If you are a materialist, how is this surprising?
It's not. But there are other things, which should be surprising to a materialist: we don't see neuronal firings in visual brain areas. We see some kind of an abstraction over those firings. Do abstractions exist alongside the matter?
- mcguire 6y agoIf you boil water, you see an amount of water changing state from a liquid to a gas, not individual molecules simply gaining momentum.
- red75prime 6y agoDo I understand correctly that there's a physical mechanism, which creates something akin to a phase boundary from electrochemical brain processes and that "phase boundary" happens to be me and my perceptions?
- mcguire 6y agoWell, no, what I was trying to say is that the behavior of individual water molecules or the electrochemical activity in the brain is not necessarily descriptive of the overall pot of boiling water or personal behavior.
- red75prime 6y agoIf we accept that there's nothing but physics, then there are no boiling pots or humans. There's only a complex multi-particle wave function.