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Resorting to voting in legislation to force your neighbours and, on a broader scale, the rest of the municipality to conform to some arbitrary rules should be c

by pharke 6y ago

Resorting to voting in legislation to force your neighbours and, on a broader scale, the rest of the municipality to conform to some arbitrary rules should be considered a failure. It means that whoever the concerned group of people are were unable or unwilling to negotiate a reasonable compromise that suits all parties and have fallen back to using force to get their own way, so to speak. I think this is at the heart of the exodus from California, there is no common good will towards resolving disputes equitably. Everything is decided at the ballot box and so everything becomes a divisive issue with close to half the population being on the losing end no matter what the result. It's not surprising that people would up stakes to get away from this.

lazide 6y ago
If you are referring to the propositions as a failure of the state, I tend to agree. It’s also the only way to directly address other propositions (like Prop 13). One thing I’ve seen in full force with for instance Prop 19 (which rolled back some of the egregious prop 13 issues such as broadly inheritable grandfathered property taxes), is that the easily accessible descriptions were all (charitably) misleading marketing fluff to sell the majority of the public on significant impacts to taxation on property that they would almost certainly not have passed if they had known the implications - people were scrambling even in Jan/Feb to figure out what it even meant for inherited real property. In most cases, it means it doesn’t actually make sense to do anything but sell it now; which is a huge shift from before, and will cost many children of regular middle class families hundreds of thousands of dollars long term (but correspondingly give 100’s of billions to the state, and close loopholes related to some commercial property or large family landlords)

by pharke 6y ago

lazide 6y ago

If you are referring to the propositions as a failure of the state, I tend to agree. It’s also the only way to directly address other propositions (like Prop 13). One thing I’ve seen in full force with for instance Prop 19 (which rolled back some of the egregious prop 13 issues such as broadly inheritable grandfathered property taxes), is that the easily accessible descriptions were all (charitably) misleading marketing fluff to sell the majority of the public on significant impacts to taxation on property that they would almost certainly not have passed if they had known the implications - people were scrambling even in Jan/Feb to figure out what it even meant for inherited real property. In most cases, it means it doesn’t actually make sense to do anything but sell it now; which is a huge shift from before, and will cost many children of regular middle class families hundreds of thousands of dollars long term (but correspondingly give 100’s of billions to the state, and close loopholes related to some commercial property or large family landlords)