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who needs virtualization anyway? salesforce is doing just fine...most of msft's bread and butter apps are moving to the web

mattmaroon 18y ago
That remains to be seen. Web-based Office competitors have been underwhelming, both in terms of quality and uptake, and nobody's sure what if anything MSFT is doing there. It's a fallacy (though a very common one among the tech-savvy) to act as if web-based Offices pose any threat at all. They may, of course, but there's no sign of that yet. Also virtualization isn't about Microsoft's products, they'll just write new ones for any new OSes. It's about the legacy code businesses everywhere run on.
- cypress-hill 18y ago
  Web-based Office competitors have been underwhelming time and the trends are on their side. google docs shows the possibility. once web systems evolve to better handle these type of apps, the advantage will play to them more and more
  - mattmaroon 18y ago
    Yeah, that's what everyone's been saying for about 3 years now. It's what a lot of people say about every technology, including the 99% that don't catch on. It's so cliche as to be meaningless. I'm not sure what you mean by "web systems", but if you mean browsers/standards they're moving at far too slow pace to assume any impact at all on anything ever. And even if they advance, there's a lag until people adopt them. A large percentage of people still use IE6, so any business model built on "web systems" unavailable until IE9 is so far off as to be not worth discussing.
    - cypress-hill 18y ago
      Yeah, that's what everyone's been saying for about 3 years now. It's what a lot of people say about every technology, including the 99% that don't catch on. It's so cliche as to be meaningless. its not a cliche. people are making real money. microsoft should be concerned
      - mattmaroon 18y ago
        The only people making real money off of web-based Office products are the founders who sold their startups to Google or Adobe.
        sutro 18y ago
        Not true. Zoho is cleaning up.
        mattmaroon 18y ago
        Source?
        sutro 18y ago
        $40m/yr revenue, $1m/month profit, and 100% bootstrapped as of 5 1/2 months ago when this article was written: http://www.forbes.com/technology/2008/02/22/mitra-zoho-india-tech-inter-cx_sm_0222mitra.html http://www.forbes.com/technology/2008/02/22/mitra-zoho-india... It's probably doing even better today.

mattmaroon 18y ago

That remains to be seen. Web-based Office competitors have been underwhelming, both in terms of quality and uptake, and nobody's sure what if anything MSFT is doing there. It's a fallacy (though a very common one among the tech-savvy) to act as if web-based Offices pose any threat at all. They may, of course, but there's no sign of that yet. Also virtualization isn't about Microsoft's products, they'll just write new ones for any new OSes. It's about the legacy code businesses everywhere run on.

cypress-hill 18y ago
Web-based Office competitors have been underwhelming time and the trends are on their side. google docs shows the possibility. once web systems evolve to better handle these type of apps, the advantage will play to them more and more
- mattmaroon 18y ago
  Yeah, that's what everyone's been saying for about 3 years now. It's what a lot of people say about every technology, including the 99% that don't catch on. It's so cliche as to be meaningless. I'm not sure what you mean by "web systems", but if you mean browsers/standards they're moving at far too slow pace to assume any impact at all on anything ever. And even if they advance, there's a lag until people adopt them. A large percentage of people still use IE6, so any business model built on "web systems" unavailable until IE9 is so far off as to be not worth discussing.
  - cypress-hill 18y ago
    Yeah, that's what everyone's been saying for about 3 years now. It's what a lot of people say about every technology, including the 99% that don't catch on. It's so cliche as to be meaningless. its not a cliche. people are making real money. microsoft should be concerned
    - mattmaroon 18y ago
      The only people making real money off of web-based Office products are the founders who sold their startups to Google or Adobe.
      - sutro 18y ago
        Not true. Zoho is cleaning up.
        mattmaroon 18y ago
        Source?
        sutro 18y ago
        $40m/yr revenue, $1m/month profit, and 100% bootstrapped as of 5 1/2 months ago when this article was written: http://www.forbes.com/technology/2008/02/22/mitra-zoho-india-tech-inter-cx_sm_0222mitra.html http://www.forbes.com/technology/2008/02/22/mitra-zoho-india... It's probably doing even better today.