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'Design and Software' ??? Brand, marketing, product strategy, product marketing, industrial design, ui design, millions of lines of code which is all part of d

by jariel 6y ago

'Design and Software' ??? Brand, marketing, product strategy, product marketing, industrial design, ui design, millions of lines of code which is all part of design, massive retail distribution chains both direct and indirect, massive loyal userbase, millions of developers, massive supply chain - and the ope rationalizing of all of that. China is not competing very well in many of those things. China's advantages are starting to look like working capital , the factories, the labour, and the local supply chain - which is much more advantageous for lower end products but it's still a price advantage more than anything. I was in the drugstore - there were over 20 different kinds of electric toothbrushes. 20 kinds! I will buy 1 and maybe, maybe another some time in my life. That's a rough business, as is almost everything in hardware. The 'high end stuff' is not necessarily going to be China. It could, but not necessarily.

cageface 6y ago
Chinese smartphones are selling extremely well and are currently the top ranked camera phones. The reputation of other Chinese brands is getting better too. Here in Asia I see Chinese branded stuff everywhere. https://www.dxomark.com/rankings/ https://www.dxomark.com/rankings/ I remember back in the day "Made in Taiwan" or "Made in Japan" was considered a joke and mark of cheap products. That changed fast and to assume the same thing won't happen again with China is a mark of Western arrogance IMO.
- valuearb 6y ago
  Chinese phones sell well because they are cheap. Apple has never had but a fraction of the market but has always made most of the revenues and profits because they dominate high end phones.
  - simonh 6y ago
    For a long time Apple made more than 100% of the profits in the mobile phone handset industry. That may appear to be impossible, but it's because so many of their competitors made losses and so had negative profits.

by jariel 6y ago

cageface 6y ago

Chinese smartphones are selling extremely well and are currently the top ranked camera phones. The reputation of other Chinese brands is getting better too. Here in Asia I see Chinese branded stuff everywhere. https://www.dxomark.com/rankings/ https://www.dxomark.com/rankings/ I remember back in the day "Made in Taiwan" or "Made in Japan" was considered a joke and mark of cheap products. That changed fast and to assume the same thing won't happen again with China is a mark of Western arrogance IMO.

valuearb 6y ago
Chinese phones sell well because they are cheap. Apple has never had but a fraction of the market but has always made most of the revenues and profits because they dominate high end phones.
- simonh 6y ago
  For a long time Apple made more than 100% of the profits in the mobile phone handset industry. That may appear to be impossible, but it's because so many of their competitors made losses and so had negative profits.