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Surely a "juicy target" then would have sufficient resources to confirm or deny this? Last time this came out though, both Apple and Amazon -- who use SuperMicr

Surely a "juicy target" then would have sufficient resources to confirm or deny this? Last time this came out though, both Apple and Amazon -- who use SuperMicro servers -- explicitly denied that the servers were compromised.

JohnJamesRambo 6y ago
I’m surprised you are surprised by this. Did you expect them to admit their servers were compromised?
- pfundstein 6y ago
  On one hand, no, but on the other hand I would expect that they preempt inevitable leaks of such information.
- PixyMisa 6y ago
  The admitted it when they discovered the NSA was tapping their fiber links. They not only admitted it, they were furious, and encrypted all their internal traffic. What's more, they didn't just keep quiet, they made very strong public denials, the kind that would result in SEC and shareholder lawsuits if they were proven to be false.
  - paganel 6y ago
    From the outside Apple (the company) looks to be a lot more subservient when it comes to its relations with China compared with its relations with the US government. Parts of the second one can be bought/lobbied almost all the way to the top, China is a little bit more challenging for a Western company, there's Xi and a handful of his underlings who can decide your future as a company on the mainland.
  - twobitshifter 6y ago
    China reacts differently than the US. If you publicly bad mouth the Chinese government there are consequences. Contrast this to a public showing of anger against the NSA which is beneficial to the company and to the NSA. The NSA wants users to feel secure and not take other measures. Shareholders can sue for anything (everything is securities fraud), the act of exposing client details to the NSA without telling shareholders is no less problematic than continuing to lie to shareholders about dealings with the NSA.

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Surely a "juicy target" then would have sufficient resources to confirm or deny this? Last time this came out though, both Apple and Amazon -- who use SuperMicr

by pfundstein 6y ago

JohnJamesRambo 6y ago
I’m surprised you are surprised by this. Did you expect them to admit their servers were compromised?
- pfundstein 6y ago
  On one hand, no, but on the other hand I would expect that they preempt inevitable leaks of such information.
- PixyMisa 6y ago
  The admitted it when they discovered the NSA was tapping their fiber links. They not only admitted it, they were furious, and encrypted all their internal traffic. What's more, they didn't just keep quiet, they made very strong public denials, the kind that would result in SEC and shareholder lawsuits if they were proven to be false.
  - paganel 6y ago
    From the outside Apple (the company) looks to be a lot more subservient when it comes to its relations with China compared with its relations with the US government. Parts of the second one can be bought/lobbied almost all the way to the top, China is a little bit more challenging for a Western company, there's Xi and a handful of his underlings who can decide your future as a company on the mainland.
  - twobitshifter 6y ago
    China reacts differently than the US. If you publicly bad mouth the Chinese government there are consequences. Contrast this to a public showing of anger against the NSA which is beneficial to the company and to the NSA. The NSA wants users to feel secure and not take other measures. Shareholders can sue for anything (everything is securities fraud), the act of exposing client details to the NSA without telling shareholders is no less problematic than continuing to lie to shareholders about dealings with the NSA.