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I'll chime in with the same intense positivity. In the early days of the quarantine I set up a "walk in theater" on my property where I wanted friends to be abl

I'll chime in with the same intense positivity. In the early days of the quarantine I set up a "walk in theater" on my property where I wanted friends to be able to watch the film without bothering my neighbors with a massive stereo system. The natural option was headphones and I chose between setting up an FM transmitter and trying to get everyone to buy a walkman... or... trying to come up with a network streaming solution. I found the open source implementation of VBAN and tried to write a python script to launch the server and manage finding new connections. It failed absolutely miserably and I ended up setting up an amplified audio system in the rain, much to the trouble of my neighbors also. Needless to say, I love this. The only thing that's stopping it from being truly wonderful is an Android app <3

sonosaurus 6y ago
There actually is an Android version in beta: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonosaurus.sonobus https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonosaurus... Needs some work still...
- hiq 6y ago
  Is the source available somewhere?
  - sschueller 6y ago
    Appears to be in the same repository: https://github.com/essej/sonobus/tree/main/Builds/Android https://github.com/essej/sonobus/tree/main/Builds/Android https://github.com/essej/sonobus/tree/main/Source/android https://github.com/essej/sonobus/tree/main/Source/android
MayeulC 6y ago
Isn't snapcast the de-facto solution for that kind of use-case?
- radus 6y ago
  This would be my pick as well. I've researched this in the context of a silent disco, and tried an Airplay based solution described here: https://chrislivengood.net/the-do-it-yourself-silent-disco/ https://chrislivengood.net/the-do-it-yourself-silent-disco/, but snapcast just works.
  - earthscienceman 6y ago
    Yeah. But the latency I had with snapcast was too much for video syncing. Maybe I had some issue other people don't have though. If you just want all audio sinks synchronized, then snapcast is great because latency doesn't matter all that much. But. If you want the words you're hearing to match moving of lips on screen.... then you're in a different realm entirely.
    - radus 6y ago
      That makes sense - I believe by default snapcast has a 1000ms buffer. I wonder if you can't grab the latency correction factor from snapcast in real-time, and somehow apply it to you video stream as well? This has been raised before it seems [1], and in another issue, the snapcast author recommends looking at RTP based streaming instead of snapcast [2]. Seems like snapcast may not be ideal for this after-all :) [1] https://github.com/badaix/snapcast/issues/57 https://github.com/badaix/snapcast/issues/57 [2] https://github.com/badaix/snapcast/issues/731#issuecomment-734992148 https://github.com/badaix/snapcast/issues/731#issuecomment-7...
      - MayeulC 6y ago
        I think parent says that +/-200ms is acceptable for snapcast, but unacceptable for lip-syncing. I am not sure snapcast can't sync down to a few ms. If so, the issue would be syncing video with the audio clients, which certainly sounds feasible if integrated in the video player. That's what jellyfin does: https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-web/pull/1011 https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-web/pull/1011 (I tried to help a bit with that one).

sonosaurus 6y ago

There actually is an Android version in beta: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonosaurus.sonobus https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonosaurus... Needs some work still...

hiq 6y ago
Is the source available somewhere?
- sschueller 6y ago
  Appears to be in the same repository: https://github.com/essej/sonobus/tree/main/Builds/Android https://github.com/essej/sonobus/tree/main/Builds/Android https://github.com/essej/sonobus/tree/main/Source/android https://github.com/essej/sonobus/tree/main/Source/android

MayeulC 6y ago

Isn't snapcast the de-facto solution for that kind of use-case?

radus 6y ago
This would be my pick as well. I've researched this in the context of a silent disco, and tried an Airplay based solution described here: https://chrislivengood.net/the-do-it-yourself-silent-disco/ https://chrislivengood.net/the-do-it-yourself-silent-disco/, but snapcast just works.
- earthscienceman 6y ago
  Yeah. But the latency I had with snapcast was too much for video syncing. Maybe I had some issue other people don't have though. If you just want all audio sinks synchronized, then snapcast is great because latency doesn't matter all that much. But. If you want the words you're hearing to match moving of lips on screen.... then you're in a different realm entirely.
  - radus 6y ago
    That makes sense - I believe by default snapcast has a 1000ms buffer. I wonder if you can't grab the latency correction factor from snapcast in real-time, and somehow apply it to you video stream as well? This has been raised before it seems [1], and in another issue, the snapcast author recommends looking at RTP based streaming instead of snapcast [2]. Seems like snapcast may not be ideal for this after-all :) [1] https://github.com/badaix/snapcast/issues/57 https://github.com/badaix/snapcast/issues/57 [2] https://github.com/badaix/snapcast/issues/731#issuecomment-734992148 https://github.com/badaix/snapcast/issues/731#issuecomment-7...
    - MayeulC 6y ago
      I think parent says that +/-200ms is acceptable for snapcast, but unacceptable for lip-syncing. I am not sure snapcast can't sync down to a few ms. If so, the issue would be syncing video with the audio clients, which certainly sounds feasible if integrated in the video player. That's what jellyfin does: https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-web/pull/1011 https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-web/pull/1011 (I tried to help a bit with that one).