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I still don’t get what “order” vs “disorder” means here. Maybe the crime stats are confusing the issue.

• dionidium 6y ago
  I'm from St. Louis, which has a much higher crime rate than Seattle, and I think I can understand the distinction. A lot of west coast cities have a sort of chaotic street feel -- lots of homelessness, open-air drug dealing and use, people yelling things in the street, and so on. Yes, St. Louis has many more homicides, but most homicides aren't random, so it's not like the baseline homicide rate affects the typical resident while walking down the street on a Tuesday. (Also: most of those homicides take place in a handful of neighborhoods you're very unlikely to be walking through, in the first place.) But lots of homelessness and open-air drug-dealing (and so on) can make a pretty big impact on what walking down the street on a Tuesday feels like. (I'm not making an argument that one is more desirable than the other. I'm just noting that I think I understand the distinction.)
  • rayiner 6y ago
    Yes that’s what I mean.