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Sort by controversial a.k.a. Shiri’s scissor (2018)
- redisman 6y agoAre there any examples of such scissor statements? This reads like fiction and would be easy to prove by showing us one of these
- lmm 6y agoIt is fiction, it's meant to make you think. The specific scissor statements would be specific to a given forum/company/etc. in any case.
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- guntars 6y agoIt says "fiction" right at the top, but one given in the story was: > A Republican Supreme Court nominee accused of committing sexual assault as a teenager.
- A12-B 6y agoIt is fiction. You can tell it is fiction because no one cares enough about an advertising company to argue for hours over how code should be implemented. That's why the author never specifies the controversial statement. There's no such statement that could make 5 people do that.
- captainmuon 6y agoIt's a fun story, but we should remember machine learning is not magic. It's not going to produce a Basilisk, and we are not helpless marionettes manipulated by advertizement agencies and social media. And if somebody was gaming your political system via Facebook and Twitter, then maybe your system is not resilient enough and has to change. OTOH, I really wonder what would happen if you tried to train an adversarial neural network to produce pictures that make somebody angry, or horny, or to provoke some other very primitive reaction. I guess it doesn't work or people would be doing it already.
- edflsafoiewq 6y agoReminds me of BLIT: http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/blit.htm http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/blit.htm
- captainmuon 6y agoYeah that is what I was referring to. Pretty chilling story.
- apsec112 6y agoMuZero is a basilisk from the perspective of Go players.
- sushisource 6y agoGo isn't the same as the human mind, though. That said, I think you could argue it's just a matter of time until we have enough power to do such things. But, you could also argue that such manipulation may simply not be possible, brains perhaps are not deterministic machines.
- EE84M3i 6y agoCould you explain this more? It's a basilisk how?
- svara 6y ago> OTOH, I really wonder what would happen if you tried to train an adversarial neural network to produce pictures that make somebody angry, or horny, or to provoke some other very primitive reaction. That is, quite literally, the entertainment industry. I'm only half joking, I think the analogy works pretty well. You've you the same actor/critic dynamic that forces ever further refinement and innovation.
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- bananabiscuit 6y agoBig if true.
- curiousllama 6y agoI like this story because I mentally replace “ML algorithm” with “exhaustive search” We, as a society, are doing an exhaustive search of every possible person-opinion-framing combination and ranking them by controversial. I love this article for pointing it out.
- dang 6y agoIf curious see also 2019 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21190508 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21190508
- anotheryou 6y agoThere is some flaws and limitations to the AI story, but we already have self-improving thought germs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc
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