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Wait, founded by George Hotz? As in GeoHot? The PS3 jailbreak guy?

miguelrochefort 6y ago
Yes. He's pretty famous for iOS jailbreaking as well.
keskadale 6y ago
Yes. The very same. He does coding streams (sometimes comma related work) on his Twitch channel (twitch.tv/georgehotz). You can find the archive here (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwgKmJM4ZJQRJ-U5NjvR2dg https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwgKmJM4ZJQRJ-U5NjvR2dg)
cbracketdash 6y ago
Exactly.
sj4nz 6y ago
Recent interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwcYp-XT7UI&list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwcYp-XT7UI&list=PLrAXtmErZg...
- djitz 6y ago
  He was on again a couple of months ago. https://youtu.be/_L3gNaAVjQ4 https://youtu.be/_L3gNaAVjQ4
maxyme 6y ago
And iPhone jailbreak guy back in the day!
qbasic_forever 6y ago
Yes, same person: https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/13/17561484/george-hotz-comma-ai-self-driving-car-scam-diy-kit https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/13/17561484/george-hotz-comm...
vimy 6y ago
Yes. He has a youtube channel where he does live coding sometimes. He also seems a bit eccentric. An interesting and gifted man for sure. https://youtu.be/9LaIezgiUmw https://youtu.be/9LaIezgiUmw
rvz 6y ago
yes.
bri3d 6y ago
Yes, this has been his project for many years now - he threw a fit and fled to China in 2016 when the NHTSA sent him a Special Order requesting test data for the Comma One product, which he then cancelled and released as pseudo open-source (the ML model is still a closed black box).
- db374837 6y ago
  Yours is the very essence of a HackerNews comment. Comma is everything a startup should be. They are not wrapping a lame business model in CRUD and living off of malinvestment. They are solving ridiculously hard problem with a small team of very smart people. Their competition has burnt billions. Meanwhile, Comma is profitable, has a better safety model than anyone. Hotz is a legend and is not running from anyone.
  - bri3d 6y ago
    This is a straw-man. I did not compare Comma to any other startup, or some bizarre ideal of "what a startup should be." I strongly disagree that Comma "have a better safety model than anyone" - their entire safety model revolves around two things, an assertion that the driver is fully responsible, and a poorly documented set of callback functions in their CAN-intercept board which, depending on the vehicle, do different things, but generally try to limit angular input and introduce an emergency override. This is smart, but the code is not documented well enough to be considered a "safety model" in any commercial sense, and the system, while it has a MISRA C linter plugged into it somewhere, is not built using safety-approved hardware or to any known safety standard. Plus, the fundamental approach on most cars involving CAN message-stuffing simply cannot be as reliable as an integrated system - in that sense, the entire model is flawed and cannot "have a better safety model than anyone." And, Hotz explicitly and openly left the United States and cancelled his first Comma product launch, rather than respond to a letter NHTSA sent him asking questions about Comma's testing protocols and safety process. Call that what you will.
- yannoninator 6y ago
  > pseudo open-source (the ML model is still a closed black box). ? I am confused with this statement. Sure the ML model is a black box, but it's better than closed source completely with no model. It's more realistic to build the software yourself than training your own self driving ML system. I would still class this as still 'open source'.
nayeem-rahman 6y ago
and the iphone guy

Yes. He's pretty famous for iOS jailbreaking as well.

Yes. The very same. He does coding streams (sometimes comma related work) on his Twitch channel (twitch.tv/georgehotz). You can find the archive here (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwgKmJM4ZJQRJ-U5NjvR2dg https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwgKmJM4ZJQRJ-U5NjvR2dg)

cbracketdash 6y ago

Exactly.

sj4nz 6y ago

Recent interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwcYp-XT7UI&list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwcYp-XT7UI&list=PLrAXtmErZg...

djitz 6y ago
He was on again a couple of months ago. https://youtu.be/_L3gNaAVjQ4 https://youtu.be/_L3gNaAVjQ4

maxyme 6y ago

And iPhone jailbreak guy back in the day!

qbasic_forever 6y ago

Yes, same person: https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/13/17561484/george-hotz-comma-ai-self-driving-car-scam-diy-kit https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/13/17561484/george-hotz-comm...

vimy 6y ago

Yes. He has a youtube channel where he does live coding sometimes. He also seems a bit eccentric. An interesting and gifted man for sure. https://youtu.be/9LaIezgiUmw https://youtu.be/9LaIezgiUmw

rvz 6y ago

yes.

bri3d 6y ago

Yes, this has been his project for many years now - he threw a fit and fled to China in 2016 when the NHTSA sent him a Special Order requesting test data for the Comma One product, which he then cancelled and released as pseudo open-source (the ML model is still a closed black box).

db374837 6y ago
Yours is the very essence of a HackerNews comment. Comma is everything a startup should be. They are not wrapping a lame business model in CRUD and living off of malinvestment. They are solving ridiculously hard problem with a small team of very smart people. Their competition has burnt billions. Meanwhile, Comma is profitable, has a better safety model than anyone. Hotz is a legend and is not running from anyone.
- bri3d 6y ago
  This is a straw-man. I did not compare Comma to any other startup, or some bizarre ideal of "what a startup should be." I strongly disagree that Comma "have a better safety model than anyone" - their entire safety model revolves around two things, an assertion that the driver is fully responsible, and a poorly documented set of callback functions in their CAN-intercept board which, depending on the vehicle, do different things, but generally try to limit angular input and introduce an emergency override. This is smart, but the code is not documented well enough to be considered a "safety model" in any commercial sense, and the system, while it has a MISRA C linter plugged into it somewhere, is not built using safety-approved hardware or to any known safety standard. Plus, the fundamental approach on most cars involving CAN message-stuffing simply cannot be as reliable as an integrated system - in that sense, the entire model is flawed and cannot "have a better safety model than anyone." And, Hotz explicitly and openly left the United States and cancelled his first Comma product launch, rather than respond to a letter NHTSA sent him asking questions about Comma's testing protocols and safety process. Call that what you will.
yannoninator 6y ago
> pseudo open-source (the ML model is still a closed black box). ? I am confused with this statement. Sure the ML model is a black box, but it's better than closed source completely with no model. It's more realistic to build the software yourself than training your own self driving ML system. I would still class this as still 'open source'.

nayeem-rahman 6y ago

and the iphone guy