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Most users of parlor are not technical people and don't understand anything about it. The reason why parlor got popular is because it was easy for disinformatio

Most users of parlor are not technical people and don't understand anything about it. The reason why parlor got popular is because it was easy for disinformation to be spread and people want to believe in it. For example when that at&t network center was bombed there was a fake image going around that it "wasn't the van that exploded". I had someone try to "prove to me" it was true by linking me to parlor and it's users creating conspiracies on top of conspiracies. The users there will accept disinformation and made up conspiracies if it benefits their team. That's sadly the reality of it. People that don't understand tech should not be on the internet. They don't understand the concept of people can and will lie freeley behind a camera or keyboard. A classical example of "my ignorance is just as good as your education because I don't know any better."

fooker 6y ago
> People that don't understand tech should not be on the internet. Do you understand the physics and engineering of all the tech you use?
- true_religion 6y ago
  There's obviously a difference between the broad understanding OP is talking about, and the low-level physics that goes into a computer. Also, one could say that there's a stark difference between saying people who do not understand how misinformation works on a platform should not use that platform, and for example saying people who don't understand toasters shouldn't use toasters. For the record, I don't understand the low level physics of toasters. As far as I know, they're magic bagel browning devices.
  - fooker 6y ago
    A toaster has fairly benign failure modes, so this strawman isn't really a reasonable one. Though I hope you understand toasters enough not to trigger your smoke alarm every time.
caseysoftware 6y ago
> People that don't understand tech should not be on the internet. Your elitist, anti-inclusive rhetoric is unnecessary. > They don't understand the concept of people can and will lie freeley behind a camera or keyboard. If one of the main claims is "the media lies" then obviously they understand that. There are valid criticisms but these are not them.
- devwastaken 6y ago
  Having the ability to properly operate any machine is not 'elitist'. Computers and the internet were not made for the purposes they are used as now - and therefore they are heavily exploitable for others profit. People that don't understand how it works are significantly more suspectible to apply real world principles in ways that are entirely non applicable. The average person trusts what others say and does not have a basic understanding of what constitutes facts and evidence. Therefore they cannot navigate truth through the internet.
  - alisonkisk 6y ago
    The problem with social media users (and propagandas victims in general) has nothing to do with how computers work and everything to do with how people work.
ratsmack 6y ago
>For example when that at&t network center was bombed there was a fake image going around that it "wasn't the van that exploded". The same thing was plastered all over Twitter and Facebook... your argument doesn't hold water.
- devwastaken 6y ago
  Facebook and Twitter don't go out of their way to support conspiracies and are not marketed specifically towards those that consume it. Fact is people whom want to believe these things heavily gravitated to Parlor and call Facebook and Twitter bad/evil.
  - ConceptJunkie 6y ago
    Facebook and Twitter are evil. You're saying that one side's lies are worse than the other side's lies. There is at least as much misinformation on Facebook and Twitter as there was on Parler. What you're really complaining about is that Parler doesn't censor the people you want to see censored.
vixen99 6y ago
People who write 'the concept of people can and will lie freeley behind a camera or keyboard', 'it's users', and 'Parlor' should perhaps pause before accusing others of ignorance in some field.
krapp 6y ago
>People that don't understand tech should not be on the internet. They don't understand the concept of people can and will lie freeley behind a camera or keyboard. You're under the mistaken impression that people who "understand tech" are never taken in by these conspiracy theories but I've seen plenty of comments on HN supporting QAnon, "stop the steal", pizzagate, COVID conspiracies and anti-vax, scientific racism, anti-semitism, UFO woo and the paranormal, you name it someone on Hacker News believes it. The evidence that being able to use a computer and being able to think critically or even maintain a rational grasp on the nature of reality are orthogonal skillsets is all around you.
- devwastaken 6y ago
  Everything is a gradient - not absolutes. You also have to understand that, again, this is the internet and HN does have political bots.
- ConceptJunkie 6y ago
  >People that don't understand tech should not be on the internet. They don't understand the concept of people can and will lie freely behind a camera or keyboard. This is a silly statement. Do you (whoever first said this) think widespread misinformation started with the internet? It has nothing to do with tech and everything to do with people. People who don't understand people should not be on the internet. Their knowledge of tech is completely orthogonal.
tbihl 6y ago
This is exactly equivalent to when people thought Reddit was something novel when they mobbed and doxed various people in their vigilante internet sleuthing of the boston marathon bomber. It's mobs being mobs: always has and always will be.

fooker 6y ago

> People that don't understand tech should not be on the internet. Do you understand the physics and engineering of all the tech you use?

true_religion 6y ago
There's obviously a difference between the broad understanding OP is talking about, and the low-level physics that goes into a computer. Also, one could say that there's a stark difference between saying people who do not understand how misinformation works on a platform should not use that platform, and for example saying people who don't understand toasters shouldn't use toasters. For the record, I don't understand the low level physics of toasters. As far as I know, they're magic bagel browning devices.
- fooker 6y ago
  A toaster has fairly benign failure modes, so this strawman isn't really a reasonable one. Though I hope you understand toasters enough not to trigger your smoke alarm every time.

caseysoftware 6y ago

> People that don't understand tech should not be on the internet. Your elitist, anti-inclusive rhetoric is unnecessary. > They don't understand the concept of people can and will lie freeley behind a camera or keyboard. If one of the main claims is "the media lies" then obviously they understand that. There are valid criticisms but these are not them.

devwastaken 6y ago
Having the ability to properly operate any machine is not 'elitist'. Computers and the internet were not made for the purposes they are used as now - and therefore they are heavily exploitable for others profit. People that don't understand how it works are significantly more suspectible to apply real world principles in ways that are entirely non applicable. The average person trusts what others say and does not have a basic understanding of what constitutes facts and evidence. Therefore they cannot navigate truth through the internet.
- alisonkisk 6y ago
  The problem with social media users (and propagandas victims in general) has nothing to do with how computers work and everything to do with how people work.

ratsmack 6y ago

>For example when that at&t network center was bombed there was a fake image going around that it "wasn't the van that exploded". The same thing was plastered all over Twitter and Facebook... your argument doesn't hold water.

devwastaken 6y ago
Facebook and Twitter don't go out of their way to support conspiracies and are not marketed specifically towards those that consume it. Fact is people whom want to believe these things heavily gravitated to Parlor and call Facebook and Twitter bad/evil.
- ConceptJunkie 6y ago
  Facebook and Twitter are evil. You're saying that one side's lies are worse than the other side's lies. There is at least as much misinformation on Facebook and Twitter as there was on Parler. What you're really complaining about is that Parler doesn't censor the people you want to see censored.

vixen99 6y ago

People who write 'the concept of people can and will lie freeley behind a camera or keyboard', 'it's users', and 'Parlor' should perhaps pause before accusing others of ignorance in some field.

krapp 6y ago

>People that don't understand tech should not be on the internet. They don't understand the concept of people can and will lie freeley behind a camera or keyboard. You're under the mistaken impression that people who "understand tech" are never taken in by these conspiracy theories but I've seen plenty of comments on HN supporting QAnon, "stop the steal", pizzagate, COVID conspiracies and anti-vax, scientific racism, anti-semitism, UFO woo and the paranormal, you name it someone on Hacker News believes it. The evidence that being able to use a computer and being able to think critically or even maintain a rational grasp on the nature of reality are orthogonal skillsets is all around you.

devwastaken 6y ago
Everything is a gradient - not absolutes. You also have to understand that, again, this is the internet and HN does have political bots.
ConceptJunkie 6y ago
>People that don't understand tech should not be on the internet. They don't understand the concept of people can and will lie freely behind a camera or keyboard. This is a silly statement. Do you (whoever first said this) think widespread misinformation started with the internet? It has nothing to do with tech and everything to do with people. People who don't understand people should not be on the internet. Their knowledge of tech is completely orthogonal.

tbihl 6y ago

This is exactly equivalent to when people thought Reddit was something novel when they mobbed and doxed various people in their vigilante internet sleuthing of the boston marathon bomber. It's mobs being mobs: always has and always will be.