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https://github.com/home-assistant/android/issues/42 https://github.com/home-assistant/android/issues/42 > We have no interest in maintaining a branch of the ap

by bisby 6y ago

https://github.com/home-assistant/android/issues/42 https://github.com/home-assistant/android/issues/42 > We have no interest in maintaining a branch of the app that doesn't depend on any proprietary services. Developers explain why they wouldn't (naming issues, and "the point of the android app vs just using a browser is to have the location tracking, which requires google services") and then the thread was closed. And then I stopped following the issue and begrudgingly installed from Play store (I'm not de-googled, because like the GP mentioned, it's very hard to do even if you think you have done it, so in some cases I don't even try). There are a LOT of locked threads in their github issues on the same topic. The F-Droid version appears to be a build of the appropriate repo, and the description says "This is the minimal flavor that does not have location tracking or notifications" (so the 2 things mentioned previously, location and push notifications are hard to do without Google). https://github.com/home-assistant/android/pull/682 https://github.com/home-assistant/android/pull/682 here is the PR that adds in a "minimal" flavor without the Google features. I stand corrected. A bunch of neat things have happened since I stopped paying attention, and I'm pretty proud of the HA team for getting around to resolving this amicably, even if they were a bit rough about it in the beginning. edit: ... I just realized I installed Home Assistant from F-Droid when I just re-imaged my phone this weekend. Without even realizing it.

johnbrodie 6y ago
For what it's worth, location services work fine in MicroG, at least for any app I've tried. MicroG presents the same API as the "real" Google version, and lets the user choose which backends to use for things like network-based location.
0e6cbf 6y ago
I found that the mobile interface for Home Assistant works great without needing an app. Just pinned my HA website to my home screen and there's one less piece of software on my device. There is some HA cloud paid service IIRC - I can't speak to whether an app would be needed for that. But for my purposes the mobile web is more than sufficient.
- bisby 6y ago
  I mostly use the app for adding widgets. It works great but native smoothness of apps wins by just a little bit for me. plus the web browser version kept logging me out. Definitely a thing I could live with if web browsing was snappy enough (which for me on pinephone, it isnt). I could survive without a HA app, if it meant the rest of the device was usable... but that's not the state it's in for me, so for now, I use the app (from F-Droid)

by bisby 6y ago

johnbrodie 6y ago

For what it's worth, location services work fine in MicroG, at least for any app I've tried. MicroG presents the same API as the "real" Google version, and lets the user choose which backends to use for things like network-based location.

0e6cbf 6y ago

I found that the mobile interface for Home Assistant works great without needing an app. Just pinned my HA website to my home screen and there's one less piece of software on my device. There is some HA cloud paid service IIRC - I can't speak to whether an app would be needed for that. But for my purposes the mobile web is more than sufficient.

bisby 6y ago
I mostly use the app for adding widgets. It works great but native smoothness of apps wins by just a little bit for me. plus the web browser version kept logging me out. Definitely a thing I could live with if web browsing was snappy enough (which for me on pinephone, it isnt). I could survive without a HA app, if it meant the rest of the device was usable... but that's not the state it's in for me, so for now, I use the app (from F-Droid)