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andrewzah 6y ago
Alternatively, if I spend time and resources building my own cloud infrastructure, I would like to be able to choose my clients. Political beliefs are not a protected class, nor should they be. And politics aside, if a client had a bad moderation policy or refused to moderate their content per my standard, then I should be allowed to terminate the contract. They should then be free to choose another provider.
- Darmody 6y ago
  So you think it's ok to discriminate people. F*ck freedom of speech, let's make everything political. What if an employee talks about minimum wage? Or paid maternity leave? Or gay marriage? Should you be able to fire them freely because you're not OK with their political beliefs? Every day I'm more astonished by what I read in this site. About the moderation thing. They did moderate, but they couldn't manage everything due the explosive growth they had. Plans to assault the Capitol were posted in Facebook and Twitter days before but only Parler is guilty.
  - andrewzah 6y ago
    "let's make everything political." Everything -is- political. For some people, the status quo is amenable to them. For others, it is not. If you want to avoid politics, I think the only real way is to venture into the wilderness and live solo. "Should you be able to fire them freely because you're not OK with their political beliefs?" I can't speak for other countries, but the US protects from being fired due to certain characteristics. Aside from that, yes, absolutely, employers should be able to fire employees. That said, there is nothing preventing said employees from giving said employer bad press, etc. There is nothing preventing employers from getting tried in the court of public opinion. I don't see why we should expect the government to intervene and say "well, you can't fire anyone, for any reason, ever, as they claim it's retribution for X, Y, or Z". That, I believe, would be referred to by most americans as the dreaded "socialism" that we're so keen to avoid in favor of free market capitalism.
  - NicoJuicy 6y ago
    Free speech doesn't mean they can't face criticism or consequences by people/businesses outside of the government. Their rights aren't violated. https://xkcd.com/1357/ https://xkcd.com/1357/ seems appropriate.
Grimm1 6y ago
You don't necessarily need the cloud, a lot of times you pay a lot more for using AWS, GCP, Azure etc. There are of course times it may make sense but just because you can't or don't want to use the cloud does not mean you cannot put a service on the internet you're just going to need some classical dev ops and networking.
XorNot 6y ago
Hilariously, you are missing the point that it actually is illegal for the power company to deny service. In fact in my country it's illegal for them to cut your power off even if you're not paying your bills since it's considered an essential service.

Alternatively, if I spend time and resources building my own cloud infrastructure, I would like to be able to choose my clients. Political beliefs are not a protected class, nor should they be. And politics aside, if a client had a bad moderation policy or refused to moderate their content per my standard, then I should be allowed to terminate the contract. They should then be free to choose another provider.

Darmody 6y ago
So you think it's ok to discriminate people. F*ck freedom of speech, let's make everything political. What if an employee talks about minimum wage? Or paid maternity leave? Or gay marriage? Should you be able to fire them freely because you're not OK with their political beliefs? Every day I'm more astonished by what I read in this site. About the moderation thing. They did moderate, but they couldn't manage everything due the explosive growth they had. Plans to assault the Capitol were posted in Facebook and Twitter days before but only Parler is guilty.
- andrewzah 6y ago
  "let's make everything political." Everything -is- political. For some people, the status quo is amenable to them. For others, it is not. If you want to avoid politics, I think the only real way is to venture into the wilderness and live solo. "Should you be able to fire them freely because you're not OK with their political beliefs?" I can't speak for other countries, but the US protects from being fired due to certain characteristics. Aside from that, yes, absolutely, employers should be able to fire employees. That said, there is nothing preventing said employees from giving said employer bad press, etc. There is nothing preventing employers from getting tried in the court of public opinion. I don't see why we should expect the government to intervene and say "well, you can't fire anyone, for any reason, ever, as they claim it's retribution for X, Y, or Z". That, I believe, would be referred to by most americans as the dreaded "socialism" that we're so keen to avoid in favor of free market capitalism.
- NicoJuicy 6y ago
  Free speech doesn't mean they can't face criticism or consequences by people/businesses outside of the government. Their rights aren't violated. https://xkcd.com/1357/ https://xkcd.com/1357/ seems appropriate.

Grimm1 6y ago

You don't necessarily need the cloud, a lot of times you pay a lot more for using AWS, GCP, Azure etc. There are of course times it may make sense but just because you can't or don't want to use the cloud does not mean you cannot put a service on the internet you're just going to need some classical dev ops and networking.

XorNot 6y ago

Hilariously, you are missing the point that it actually is illegal for the power company to deny service. In fact in my country it's illegal for them to cut your power off even if you're not paying your bills since it's considered an essential service.