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I bought a laptop with Ubuntu preinstalled and had an amazing experience for the first month. Then one day the computer would no longer boot. I had to manually

I bought a laptop with Ubuntu preinstalled and had an amazing experience for the first month. Then one day the computer would no longer boot. I had to manually tinker to revert to older version and it booted again, but now 50% time microphone didn't work. Then one day I installed mysql, and had to do some crazy brute force experimentation to be able to run a local copy of our db. I accept it's possible the hardware vendor messed up the setup, and someone with greater skills than me could have worked around these issues more productively whilst benefitting from greater flexibility and customisation in other areas. I will stick to MacBooks from now onwards. I don't have the time to deal with all this hassle.

pmontra 6y ago
Who's the manufacturer?
- oli5679 6y ago
  Dell
AzzieElbab 6y ago
At some point I had similar issues with every windows machine I ever used :) Macs do benefit a lot from single vendor for software and hardware
ur-whale 6y ago
You just described my daily experience with OSX until I decided to toss it and switch to Linux. Never going back.
bengale 6y ago
I have found it to be somewhat awkward too. I’ve been using a headless Linux server under my desk recently and using remote vscode and shh to interact with it from macOS. Just the other day though the wifi just stopped working, nothing I did could bring it back. Until the fifth restart, still no idea why that happened. Sometimes it won’t boot, gets stuck in the boot sequence and I have to reboot a handful of times until it straightens itself out. I just don’t get these issues with macOS. But sadly the specification of machine I’m running Linux on costs 1/3rd of what I’d pay for a similar Mac Pro, so for now I’ll have to live with it.
vangelis 6y ago
Yeah, it's great until something greats in new and exciting ways.
wayneftw 6y ago
I've been running Manjaro on two desktops and one laptop for over two years now, without any of the problems that I'd experienced with Ubuntu, similar to the ones that you've mentioned. Recently I also installed it on an old Mac Pro 2012 and it runs beautifully there. I'm a lazy ass, I don't like fiddling with my tools to keep them working and Manjaro (and I'm assuming other Arch based distros) is the way to go IMO. Also XFCE beats Gnome hands down in stability and efficiency. Every Ubuntu desktop I've tried to maintain has eaten itself somehow. I've been using Linux for almost 20 years too! I also run multiple Mac and Windows systems and they are both way more work to keep running with my preferred configuration than Manjaro, especially around the time of major updates. I'll never go back to them for my main workstation and instead just use them for Windows/Mac specific stuff when necessary - and video games. There is only one problem I've never found a solution for on my Linux desktops: How to retain HDMI audio output as the default output after the display wakes up. I can probably script something to fix this after wake up, but I'm too lazy to look into it and luckily I don't do a lot of work with multimedia. All my entertainment stations are running Windows except for one.
asdff 6y ago
Honestly building some command line tools on OSX is such a headache that I feel like I'd break three keyboards a year if I was a linux user and had to go through that cryptic and poorly documented experience all the more often.

pmontra 6y ago

Who's the manufacturer?

oli5679 6y ago
Dell

AzzieElbab 6y ago

At some point I had similar issues with every windows machine I ever used :) Macs do benefit a lot from single vendor for software and hardware

ur-whale 6y ago

You just described my daily experience with OSX until I decided to toss it and switch to Linux. Never going back.

bengale 6y ago

I have found it to be somewhat awkward too. I’ve been using a headless Linux server under my desk recently and using remote vscode and shh to interact with it from macOS. Just the other day though the wifi just stopped working, nothing I did could bring it back. Until the fifth restart, still no idea why that happened. Sometimes it won’t boot, gets stuck in the boot sequence and I have to reboot a handful of times until it straightens itself out. I just don’t get these issues with macOS. But sadly the specification of machine I’m running Linux on costs 1/3rd of what I’d pay for a similar Mac Pro, so for now I’ll have to live with it.

vangelis 6y ago

Yeah, it's great until something greats in new and exciting ways.

wayneftw 6y ago

I've been running Manjaro on two desktops and one laptop for over two years now, without any of the problems that I'd experienced with Ubuntu, similar to the ones that you've mentioned. Recently I also installed it on an old Mac Pro 2012 and it runs beautifully there. I'm a lazy ass, I don't like fiddling with my tools to keep them working and Manjaro (and I'm assuming other Arch based distros) is the way to go IMO. Also XFCE beats Gnome hands down in stability and efficiency. Every Ubuntu desktop I've tried to maintain has eaten itself somehow. I've been using Linux for almost 20 years too! I also run multiple Mac and Windows systems and they are both way more work to keep running with my preferred configuration than Manjaro, especially around the time of major updates. I'll never go back to them for my main workstation and instead just use them for Windows/Mac specific stuff when necessary - and video games. There is only one problem I've never found a solution for on my Linux desktops: How to retain HDMI audio output as the default output after the display wakes up. I can probably script something to fix this after wake up, but I'm too lazy to look into it and luckily I don't do a lot of work with multimedia. All my entertainment stations are running Windows except for one.

asdff 6y ago

Honestly building some command line tools on OSX is such a headache that I feel like I'd break three keyboards a year if I was a linux user and had to go through that cryptic and poorly documented experience all the more often.