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Obviously anecdotal, but my wife is a nurse and she's been hearing some frightening things about the vaccine. Young people getting it are basically bed-ridden f

by jb775 6y ago

Obviously anecdotal, but my wife is a nurse and she's been hearing some frightening things about the vaccine. Young people getting it are basically bed-ridden for days and are calling out of work...one lady couldn't lift her arm anymore and is now getting physical therapy...one guy went out to dinner with his family after getting it and had complete memory loss of the entire dinner. At what point does common sense risk to reward ratio come into play for young people?

xadhominemx 6y ago
I’m happy to feel crummy for a few days if my grandmother gets to leave her house
- jb775 6y ago
  In other words, you'd potentially give up the ability to procreate and possibly give yourself cancer in 10 years so grandma can slightly lower her chances of catching a flu where she has 99% chance of being perfectly fine. You truly are a hero.
majormajor 6y ago
This is what you say about something that looks like "good news" above: > Serious question: How do we know any of this reporting is true? > There's no data sources provided, no way to check follow up health (i'e. what if these people all dropped dead a week later), no way to prove the data isn't a complete fabrication, etc. Also, they make sure to use dynamic terms so we can't be sure these numbers have any valuable meaning at all (e.g. were Covid tests with drastically different cycle counts used?). Not to mention all of this reporting is praising a single vaccine producer in a billion dollar industry. > I just read "How to Lie with Statistics" by Darrell Huff and this whole thing is the epitome of a manipulatable situation. Combine the two and you no longer look "hey lets make sure people aren't lying to us," you just look like you have your own agenda. So if you can lie with statistics, you can certainly lie even more with claimed anecdotes... (The point of a vaccine is to trigger and train the immune system. The immune system revving up can cause symptoms of its own. If you get the fever of the immune system responding, without the lung damage cause you don't have the original actual virus, that's a huge win!)

by jb775 6y ago

xadhominemx 6y ago

I’m happy to feel crummy for a few days if my grandmother gets to leave her house

jb775 6y ago
In other words, you'd potentially give up the ability to procreate and possibly give yourself cancer in 10 years so grandma can slightly lower her chances of catching a flu where she has 99% chance of being perfectly fine. You truly are a hero.

majormajor 6y ago

This is what you say about something that looks like "good news" above: > Serious question: How do we know any of this reporting is true? > There's no data sources provided, no way to check follow up health (i'e. what if these people all dropped dead a week later), no way to prove the data isn't a complete fabrication, etc. Also, they make sure to use dynamic terms so we can't be sure these numbers have any valuable meaning at all (e.g. were Covid tests with drastically different cycle counts used?). Not to mention all of this reporting is praising a single vaccine producer in a billion dollar industry. > I just read "How to Lie with Statistics" by Darrell Huff and this whole thing is the epitome of a manipulatable situation. Combine the two and you no longer look "hey lets make sure people aren't lying to us," you just look like you have your own agenda. So if you can lie with statistics, you can certainly lie even more with claimed anecdotes... (The point of a vaccine is to trigger and train the immune system. The immune system revving up can cause symptoms of its own. If you get the fever of the immune system responding, without the lung damage cause you don't have the original actual virus, that's a huge win!)