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He is not talking about cancel culture. He is taking this very overloaded term as premise, as self-evident "fact" for the degeneration of academia and "the publ

He is not talking about cancel culture. He is taking this very overloaded term as premise, as self-evident "fact" for the degeneration of academia and "the public discourse", to pave the way for injecting his super deep ideology about salvation by Love, Elon and Ayn Rand. I am not sure, if you are familiar with Joscha Bach, but he once said something about something, and people think he's super intelligent! None of these podcasts talking critical about cancel culture. There is a far, far better (critical) take on it within "marxist" culture, e.g. from Natalie Wynn. If Lex wants to talk cancel culture, why not invite her for example? She is an academic, smart and wrote and talked extensively about it. But that would be a little too open-minded wouldn't it? [§] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjMPJVmXxV8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjMPJVmXxV8 [$] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gDKbT_l2us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gDKbT_l2us

ironmagma 6y ago
Maybe he will, I would hardly bet money against it. Maybe two years ago I would have, but probably also would have done the same about him hosting Whitney Cummings. He seems pretty open, why don’t you suggest it to him? I think you are drawing a false dichotomy though. Somehow, cancel culture is a topic, but they aren’t talking __about__ it. Is there some other preposition that can fill the blank?
- monopoledance 6y ago
  What I meant is, he takes "cancel culture" as self-evident fact, when it's obviously a pretty overloaded term by now (like "fascist"). How could you make cancel culture a topic without specifying exactly what you are criticizing (god forbid even avoid the term altogether...)? That's why Lex is polemic there and not contributing anything really. There is also never even a pro forma attempt at emphasizing with the motivations for cancel-culturing. I mean, if you cannot understand incentives, of course the means feel inappropriate. Sure as hell, there are legit motivations for "cancel culture", but now there are too many cooks involved. Like, how could you sympathize with spaceflight research spending without talking about possible destinations and why you wanna go to space? Spaceflight, like cancel culture, doesn't happen in a vacuum.
  - ironmagma 6y ago
    I for one personally don’t care why we go to the moon but still think going back to the moon would be a boon for technology. Social attitudes are the same way often; it doesn’t matter much why people are anti-science, or pro-violence, both are bad no matter the motivation, even if there is occasionally a good reason to punch someone or disagree with prevailing scientific wisdom.
    - monopoledance 6y ago
      I don't think you see the point in my argument. Anyway, this isn't going anywhere. I am out, have a nice day.

ironmagma 6y ago

Maybe he will, I would hardly bet money against it. Maybe two years ago I would have, but probably also would have done the same about him hosting Whitney Cummings. He seems pretty open, why don’t you suggest it to him? I think you are drawing a false dichotomy though. Somehow, cancel culture is a topic, but they aren’t talking __about__ it. Is there some other preposition that can fill the blank?

monopoledance 6y ago
What I meant is, he takes "cancel culture" as self-evident fact, when it's obviously a pretty overloaded term by now (like "fascist"). How could you make cancel culture a topic without specifying exactly what you are criticizing (god forbid even avoid the term altogether...)? That's why Lex is polemic there and not contributing anything really. There is also never even a pro forma attempt at emphasizing with the motivations for cancel-culturing. I mean, if you cannot understand incentives, of course the means feel inappropriate. Sure as hell, there are legit motivations for "cancel culture", but now there are too many cooks involved. Like, how could you sympathize with spaceflight research spending without talking about possible destinations and why you wanna go to space? Spaceflight, like cancel culture, doesn't happen in a vacuum.
- ironmagma 6y ago
  I for one personally don’t care why we go to the moon but still think going back to the moon would be a boon for technology. Social attitudes are the same way often; it doesn’t matter much why people are anti-science, or pro-violence, both are bad no matter the motivation, even if there is occasionally a good reason to punch someone or disagree with prevailing scientific wisdom.
  - monopoledance 6y ago
    I don't think you see the point in my argument. Anyway, this isn't going anywhere. I am out, have a nice day.