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There is a difference. Fascism is originally defined as national socialism by Mussolini. What Republicans do you see advocating for any such thing? Under actual

by z9e 6y ago

There is a difference. Fascism is originally defined as national socialism by Mussolini. What Republicans do you see advocating for any such thing? Under actual Fascism, private ownership of businesses was allowed, but the government limited the profits they could make. Point me to where Republicans are trying to limit the amount of profits any company in the US can make. If the comparison is totalitarian tendencies, you have a lot of effort to go through to frame this as a one sided problem as both sides exhibit such time to time. The only thing conservatives and Fascists have in common is they are nationalist at this point, that's it. The constant throwing around of the Fascist label upon the right wing in this country is so disconnected from reality, as someone who loves history it makes me cringe to no end.

krapp 6y ago
"If it doesn't come from the Fascist region of Italy then it's just sparkling white supremacy." Wait until you learn that "Nazi" doesn't always explicitly refer to a member of the German National Socialist party.
- yurielt 6y ago
  Nobody said that it does or has to do in that exact form but at this point some people want to be to loose in order to make a dishonest picture of anyone to the right of Mao
mhh__ 6y ago
I wouldn't associate the american right with fascism in the abstract but I think anyone who believes that Trump himself didn't at very least have some deeply worrying fascist-ic tendencies is kidding themselves: The ethno-nationalism, the distaste for democracy, the love of "powerful" men like Kim and Putin etc - the list is long and the signs were there from day 0. That's not "ooh you're a fascist now let me drink my starbucks"-fascism, but actual, dangerous, fascism that slips through the cracks - the US effectively came within one arbitrary vote in congress of ignoring an election result: If someone less inept than Trump comes along one day and tries I suspect it'll be a slam dunk in the land of the free. Counterargue my friends, facts don't care about your feelings
temp8964 6y ago
And nationalism isn't uniquely a right-wing thing at all. All communist governments embraced nationalism.
- rayiner 6y ago
  The four states pillars of the Constitution of my home country, Bangladesh, are “nationalism, socialism, democracy, and secularism.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujibism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujibism It seems quite bizarre to me to not have a level of nationalism. Obviously the purpose of American government is ensuring the prosperity of Americans. What else could it be? And how else can you get 330 million people—who don’t share an ethnicity, history, first language, etc.—to consent to common governance without encouraging a healthy level of nationalism? Fascism is nationalism taken to the level of justifying war on others because of self-declared superiority. That’s beyond ordinary nationalism.
- NoOneNew 6y ago
  Why are you downvoted? How much motherland rhetoric did the soviets push? What about the CCP pushing for a "strong China" narrative. Venezuela was a very "venezuela first" ideology. Yes, left wingers, socialists and communists are very nationalistic as well. That or are "the party" first... which just ends up being nationalism with an extra step.

by z9e 6y ago

krapp 6y ago

"If it doesn't come from the Fascist region of Italy then it's just sparkling white supremacy." Wait until you learn that "Nazi" doesn't always explicitly refer to a member of the German National Socialist party.

yurielt 6y ago
Nobody said that it does or has to do in that exact form but at this point some people want to be to loose in order to make a dishonest picture of anyone to the right of Mao

mhh__ 6y ago

I wouldn't associate the american right with fascism in the abstract but I think anyone who believes that Trump himself didn't at very least have some deeply worrying fascist-ic tendencies is kidding themselves: The ethno-nationalism, the distaste for democracy, the love of "powerful" men like Kim and Putin etc - the list is long and the signs were there from day 0. That's not "ooh you're a fascist now let me drink my starbucks"-fascism, but actual, dangerous, fascism that slips through the cracks - the US effectively came within one arbitrary vote in congress of ignoring an election result: If someone less inept than Trump comes along one day and tries I suspect it'll be a slam dunk in the land of the free. Counterargue my friends, facts don't care about your feelings

temp8964 6y ago

And nationalism isn't uniquely a right-wing thing at all. All communist governments embraced nationalism.

rayiner 6y ago
The four states pillars of the Constitution of my home country, Bangladesh, are “nationalism, socialism, democracy, and secularism.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujibism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujibism It seems quite bizarre to me to not have a level of nationalism. Obviously the purpose of American government is ensuring the prosperity of Americans. What else could it be? And how else can you get 330 million people—who don’t share an ethnicity, history, first language, etc.—to consent to common governance without encouraging a healthy level of nationalism? Fascism is nationalism taken to the level of justifying war on others because of self-declared superiority. That’s beyond ordinary nationalism.
NoOneNew 6y ago
Why are you downvoted? How much motherland rhetoric did the soviets push? What about the CCP pushing for a "strong China" narrative. Venezuela was a very "venezuela first" ideology. Yes, left wingers, socialists and communists are very nationalistic as well. That or are "the party" first... which just ends up being nationalism with an extra step.