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Quote: "It is somewhat suggestive that none of Sweden's direct neighbours show significant excess mortality in 2020..." Also, I wonder what you mean by Norway

by cygx 6y ago

Quote: "It is somewhat suggestive that none of Sweden's direct neighbours show significant excess mortality in 2020..." Also, I wonder what you mean by Norway disavowing lockdowns? Because they did institute fairly strict measures on March 12, eventually going so far as forbidding people to travel to their cabins to avoid putting strain on rural infrastructure. Was there some sort of public disavowal after the fact?

BrendanEich 6y ago
The “bottom of the pack” was in reference to ourworldindata cumulative Covid deaths (counted differently in different countries). Could you please link me to the multi-country excess morality data?
- cygx 6y ago
  > Could you please link me to the multi-country excess morality data? Not sure if there's something better, I just clicked through https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-raw-death-count?tab=chart&stackMode=absolute&country=~SWE&region=World https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-raw-deat... via 'Change country'. As the graphs can be misleading due to the different scaling of the y-axis depending on the country, I also pulled the data and did my own analysis, eg comparing 'Sweden' against 'all Nordics' and 'all Nordics but Sweden'. For Denmark, Finland and Norway combined, there were fewer deaths at the beginning of the year compared to the previous 5-year average, and a bit more deaths in April and May - basically a wash, ie 'no worse than the flu'. The situation in Sweden is different, with significant excess mortality.
  - BrendanEich 6y ago
    Thanks. Any age-cohort data?
    - cygx 6y ago
      No, my own dive down the Covid rabbit hole has been fairly shallow so far (I used to keep track of local numbers, but eventually stopped; a couple of weeks ago, I looked at excess mortality in the Nordics because Sweden continued to pop up in online discussions).

by cygx 6y ago

BrendanEich 6y ago

The “bottom of the pack” was in reference to ourworldindata cumulative Covid deaths (counted differently in different countries). Could you please link me to the multi-country excess morality data?

cygx 6y ago
> Could you please link me to the multi-country excess morality data? Not sure if there's something better, I just clicked through https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-raw-death-count?tab=chart&stackMode=absolute&country=~SWE&region=World https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-raw-deat... via 'Change country'. As the graphs can be misleading due to the different scaling of the y-axis depending on the country, I also pulled the data and did my own analysis, eg comparing 'Sweden' against 'all Nordics' and 'all Nordics but Sweden'. For Denmark, Finland and Norway combined, there were fewer deaths at the beginning of the year compared to the previous 5-year average, and a bit more deaths in April and May - basically a wash, ie 'no worse than the flu'. The situation in Sweden is different, with significant excess mortality.
- BrendanEich 6y ago
  Thanks. Any age-cohort data?
  - cygx 6y ago
    No, my own dive down the Covid rabbit hole has been fairly shallow so far (I used to keep track of local numbers, but eventually stopped; a couple of weeks ago, I looked at excess mortality in the Nordics because Sweden continued to pop up in online discussions).