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Those prices are far below normal prices. Normal is 28-50 cents in places like San Diego (https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/energy-green/story/2020

Those prices are far below normal prices. Normal is 28-50 cents in places like San Diego (https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/energy-green/story/2020-04-16/cpuc-vote-on-removing-seasonal-residential-tiered-rates https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/energy-green/s...).

shiftpgdn 6y ago
In Texas griddy exposes you to real time spot pricing. I was frequently getting paid to use electricity at night due to excess generation by wind. As an electric car owner this was fantastic as I frequently got paid to recharge my car. My average delivered rate before this week was 7c/kwh all in.
- tzs 6y ago
  Does anyone there get a battery system, like a Tesla Powerwall, to save up negative priced night electricity to use in the daytime?
  - rstupek 6y ago
    It doesn't happen enough that I've seen to make it worthwhile
    - deleted 6y ago
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  - manyes 6y ago
    Of course, during these cold snaps, the battery doesn't really work well, right?
    - tzs 6y ago
      Powerwalls have an operating temperature range of -4 F to 122 F (-20 C to 50 C), although they recommend 32-86 F (0-30 C). They can also be mounted indoors.
maxerickson 6y ago
My power comes from, I believe, a nuclear plant in Wisconsin. $0.098 per kW-h, with $15 a month connection fee.
- bfrog 6y ago
  Wi has a lot of coal by the lake, where is there a nuke? Chicago was almost all nukes at one point
  - khuey 6y ago
    Point Beach is still operating afaik. Kewaunee shut down several years ago though.
xxpor 6y ago
CA power is hilariously expensive compared to the rest of the country. 10c is much closer to average.
- jeffbee 6y ago
  The weighted average price is 10.54¢ per kwh. In California it's 16. Both 5 and 35¢ are pretty poor estimates.
  - kevinventullo 6y ago
    I paid $.36 last month living an hour north of SF.
    - jeffbee 6y ago
      Average or marginal? Most PG&E customers have a “baseline allowance” with a higher marginal cost as you draw more energy over the month.
      - kevinventullo 6y ago
        Marginal. I was doing a back-of-the-envelope calculation about getting an EV and realized that the $/mile cost to charge it would be about the same as paying for gasoline on a car which gets 30 mi/gallon.
Aloha 6y ago
I'm paying 8.5-8.3 cent kWh on a fixed contract. Power is very very very cheap in Texas.

shiftpgdn 6y ago

In Texas griddy exposes you to real time spot pricing. I was frequently getting paid to use electricity at night due to excess generation by wind. As an electric car owner this was fantastic as I frequently got paid to recharge my car. My average delivered rate before this week was 7c/kwh all in.

tzs 6y ago
Does anyone there get a battery system, like a Tesla Powerwall, to save up negative priced night electricity to use in the daytime?
- rstupek 6y ago
  It doesn't happen enough that I've seen to make it worthwhile
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]
- manyes 6y ago
  Of course, during these cold snaps, the battery doesn't really work well, right?
  - tzs 6y ago
    Powerwalls have an operating temperature range of -4 F to 122 F (-20 C to 50 C), although they recommend 32-86 F (0-30 C). They can also be mounted indoors.

maxerickson 6y ago

My power comes from, I believe, a nuclear plant in Wisconsin. $0.098 per kW-h, with $15 a month connection fee.

bfrog 6y ago
Wi has a lot of coal by the lake, where is there a nuke? Chicago was almost all nukes at one point
- khuey 6y ago
  Point Beach is still operating afaik. Kewaunee shut down several years ago though.

xxpor 6y ago

CA power is hilariously expensive compared to the rest of the country. 10c is much closer to average.

jeffbee 6y ago
The weighted average price is 10.54¢ per kwh. In California it's 16. Both 5 and 35¢ are pretty poor estimates.
- kevinventullo 6y ago
  I paid $.36 last month living an hour north of SF.
  - jeffbee 6y ago
    Average or marginal? Most PG&E customers have a “baseline allowance” with a higher marginal cost as you draw more energy over the month.
    - kevinventullo 6y ago
      Marginal. I was doing a back-of-the-envelope calculation about getting an EV and realized that the $/mile cost to charge it would be about the same as paying for gasoline on a car which gets 30 mi/gallon.

Aloha 6y ago

I'm paying 8.5-8.3 cent kWh on a fixed contract. Power is very very very cheap in Texas.