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Fact: You are conflating two separate instances where Trump bullied reporters to make your point. Instance from 2018 (with what you termed “racist” insinuation

Fact: You are conflating two separate instances where Trump bullied reporters to make your point. Instance from 2018 (with what you termed “racist” insinuations): https://youtu.be/OXp5GJjuOvQ https://youtu.be/OXp5GJjuOvQ Instance from 2020 actually relating to COVID-19: https://youtu.be/N5NQdmHzBTY https://youtu.be/N5NQdmHzBTY I’m going to take this as a reminder that we should all carefully consider sources of information, even when those sources are our own recollections and experiences.

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chrisco255 6y ago
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/covid-19-pandemic-us-president-donald-trump-abruptly-ends-coronavirus-press-conference-after-spat-with-reporter-2227194 https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/covid-19-pandemic-us-preside... No, this was the "racist" incident when Weijia Jiang asked Trump why he was insisting on bringing up the fact that the U.S. was doing better than (several European countries, including UK, Italy, Spain, and France at the time) other countries. And he said, "They're losing their lives everywhere in the world. And maybe that's a question you should ask China. Don't ask me, ask China that question, OK?" because at the time, China was claiming they had basically solved Covid-19 with lockdowns and that the virus was no longer spreading in their country. And she said, "Sir, why are you saying that to me specifically?" implying it was due to her race (she being of Chinese heritage). And Trump, in standard form, said "I'm saying it to anybody who would ask a nasty question like that." Every time Trump would be his ordinary self, you know, he always punches back at underhanded questions. The questions are a set up in the first place, to create a negative connotation. The coronavirus was a situation where nobody won, by the way, but the press certainly was going to do everything to make as much if it be Trump's fault as possible. Weirdly, some, who feared Trump being a true Hitler-like fascist 2-3 years ago, were upset that Trump wasn't being fascist enough and shutting the whole country down and overruling state governors on local policies. None of it was productive. None of it was healthy: on either side. None of it enlightened the population. None of it did any favors for democracy. It just inflamed already tense relations between conservatives and liberals. And note, there's no way in hell the media will ever be as hard on a democrat in office. They are 95% democrats themselves, and they have a bias. They soft balled Biden as it is, when he wasn't hiding in his basement.
- tessierashpool 6y ago
  She said: "Why does that matter? Why is this a global competition when, every day, Americans are still losing their lives?" Did he answer the question? Or did he look at an Asian woman and immediately start attacking China? And this is just ridiculous: "Weirdly, some, who feared Trump being a true Hitler-like fascist 2-3 years ago, were upset that Trump wasn't being fascist enough and shutting the whole country down and overruling state governors on local policies." There's nothing fascist about instituting a national healthcare policy during a national healthcare crisis. That's not what the word means. Fascism is far-right authoritarianism. Marshalling private militias to attack people is fascism, however, and it's a practice Trump shares with both Hitler and Mussolini.
  - chordalkeyboard 6y ago
    > There's nothing fascist about instituting a national healthcare policy during a national healthcare crisis. That's not what the word means. Fascism is far-right authoritarianism. When the “national healthcare policy” you wanted him to institute is an authoritarian policy that overrules local governments and implements central economic planning, then yes, its fascism. Using different words to describe the same thing might work for the soundbite but people know the truth.
  - xirbeosbwo1234 6y ago
    >Or did he look at an Asian woman and immediately start attacking China? I don't think that's entirely fair. I suspect his answer would be pretty much the same no matter who asked it. He was pre >Marshalling private militias to attack people is fascism, however, and it's a practice Trump shares with both Hitler and Mussolini. "LIBERATE MICHIGAN", anyone? Though, in fairness, the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor didn't start until two whole two months after he sent that Tweet. The Blackshirts carrying rifles through the capitol building were largely peaceful.
- xirbeosbwo1234 6y ago
  I suppose the guy calling Covid-19 "Kung Flu" was in no way trying to deflect blame to China? Was his treatment of that reporter in particular bad? No, not really. I don't believe he brought up China because she was Chinese. But I don't think "he always throws temper tantrums" or "he always finds a scapegoat" or "he's always badmouthing China even when he knows there's been a spike in hate crimes against Chinese people" are terribly good excuses. Premeditation and a pattern of behavior make his actions worse, not better. > because at the time, China was claiming they had basically solved Covid-19 with lockdowns and that the virus was no longer spreading in their country. You are putting words in his mouth. We don't know what he meant because he refused to answer the question. Immediately after that exchange, he cut the briefing short and left the room.

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chrisco255 6y ago

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/covid-19-pandemic-us-president-donald-trump-abruptly-ends-coronavirus-press-conference-after-spat-with-reporter-2227194 https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/covid-19-pandemic-us-preside... No, this was the "racist" incident when Weijia Jiang asked Trump why he was insisting on bringing up the fact that the U.S. was doing better than (several European countries, including UK, Italy, Spain, and France at the time) other countries. And he said, "They're losing their lives everywhere in the world. And maybe that's a question you should ask China. Don't ask me, ask China that question, OK?" because at the time, China was claiming they had basically solved Covid-19 with lockdowns and that the virus was no longer spreading in their country. And she said, "Sir, why are you saying that to me specifically?" implying it was due to her race (she being of Chinese heritage). And Trump, in standard form, said "I'm saying it to anybody who would ask a nasty question like that." Every time Trump would be his ordinary self, you know, he always punches back at underhanded questions. The questions are a set up in the first place, to create a negative connotation. The coronavirus was a situation where nobody won, by the way, but the press certainly was going to do everything to make as much if it be Trump's fault as possible. Weirdly, some, who feared Trump being a true Hitler-like fascist 2-3 years ago, were upset that Trump wasn't being fascist enough and shutting the whole country down and overruling state governors on local policies. None of it was productive. None of it was healthy: on either side. None of it enlightened the population. None of it did any favors for democracy. It just inflamed already tense relations between conservatives and liberals. And note, there's no way in hell the media will ever be as hard on a democrat in office. They are 95% democrats themselves, and they have a bias. They soft balled Biden as it is, when he wasn't hiding in his basement.

tessierashpool 6y ago
She said: "Why does that matter? Why is this a global competition when, every day, Americans are still losing their lives?" Did he answer the question? Or did he look at an Asian woman and immediately start attacking China? And this is just ridiculous: "Weirdly, some, who feared Trump being a true Hitler-like fascist 2-3 years ago, were upset that Trump wasn't being fascist enough and shutting the whole country down and overruling state governors on local policies." There's nothing fascist about instituting a national healthcare policy during a national healthcare crisis. That's not what the word means. Fascism is far-right authoritarianism. Marshalling private militias to attack people is fascism, however, and it's a practice Trump shares with both Hitler and Mussolini.
- chordalkeyboard 6y ago
  > There's nothing fascist about instituting a national healthcare policy during a national healthcare crisis. That's not what the word means. Fascism is far-right authoritarianism. When the “national healthcare policy” you wanted him to institute is an authoritarian policy that overrules local governments and implements central economic planning, then yes, its fascism. Using different words to describe the same thing might work for the soundbite but people know the truth.
- xirbeosbwo1234 6y ago
  >Or did he look at an Asian woman and immediately start attacking China? I don't think that's entirely fair. I suspect his answer would be pretty much the same no matter who asked it. He was pre >Marshalling private militias to attack people is fascism, however, and it's a practice Trump shares with both Hitler and Mussolini. "LIBERATE MICHIGAN", anyone? Though, in fairness, the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor didn't start until two whole two months after he sent that Tweet. The Blackshirts carrying rifles through the capitol building were largely peaceful.
xirbeosbwo1234 6y ago
I suppose the guy calling Covid-19 "Kung Flu" was in no way trying to deflect blame to China? Was his treatment of that reporter in particular bad? No, not really. I don't believe he brought up China because she was Chinese. But I don't think "he always throws temper tantrums" or "he always finds a scapegoat" or "he's always badmouthing China even when he knows there's been a spike in hate crimes against Chinese people" are terribly good excuses. Premeditation and a pattern of behavior make his actions worse, not better. > because at the time, China was claiming they had basically solved Covid-19 with lockdowns and that the virus was no longer spreading in their country. You are putting words in his mouth. We don't know what he meant because he refused to answer the question. Immediately after that exchange, he cut the briefing short and left the room.