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Are there any drawbacks to this? I've been looking for a "Heroku for Django" for a few months and I just started using Google App Engine to get some of what I

Are there any drawbacks to this? I've been looking for a "Heroku for Django" for a few months and I just started using Google App Engine to get some of what I want. I'll go ahead and try this if it works well.

stephth 15y ago
The [good / bad] news for you is: you [won't have to / can't] use the AppEngine High Replication Datastore. It's also worth mentioning that unlike AppEngine the Heroku stack is a unix based environment (call "heroku run bash" and boom, you have shell access) and its components are all open sourced, so it should be relatively easy to move from there to a VPS if you ever need to. Other than that, Heroku comes from multiple years of supporting Ruby (and some Node.js), their main page still states "Agile deployment for Ruby and Node.js", there's a lot of Rails/Sinatra/Rack specific stuff in their docs, and the Heroku command line tool is a Ruby Gem. In other words, this is not an "Heroku for Django", like Djangy was, it's become more like an "Heroku for anything, with a strong culture of Ruby", and IMO that's extremely exciting: we're talking about access to multiple languages and tools on the same easy-to-use cloud.
- whackedspinach 15y ago
  That is pretty exciting. I moved to App Engine from EC2 because I didn't want to spend that much time managing the stack. I'm going to go try Heroku now.
- shykes 15y ago
  If you like the idea of "Heroku for anything", I encourage you to try the original: dotCloud has been running a similar platform for almost a year now. We're flattered to see everyone shift gear and try our approach. But we like being one generation ahead - and we have a few announcements up our sleeve, too.
  - stephth 15y ago
    Dotcloud looks very interesting, but to me it's hard to consider next to strong competitors that have established their pricing... That said I'm very looking forward to see the dotcloud pricing announced.
    - shykes 15y ago
      Hi Steph, I just dropped you an email with good news :)
intranation 15y ago
If you want a dedicated cloud hosting platform that works really well with Django you could do worse than try http://www.ep.io/ http://www.ep.io/ (currently invite only, but really good service).
- whackedspinach 15y ago
  Yes, I saw that a week ago and signed up for an invite. People seem to be happy with it from what I've seen on StackOverflow and other sites.
makeramen 15y ago
dotcloud (http://www.dotcloud.com/ http://www.dotcloud.com/) has been my go-to django (and everything) hosting. They seem to hand out invites pretty quickly, esp if you tweet them (http://docs.dotcloud.com/faq/#i-need-a-beta-invite-right-now http://docs.dotcloud.com/faq/#i-need-a-beta-invite-right-now). I signed up for all the betas of django hosting places a while ago and dotcloud was the only one I heard from. I'm pretty sure they're YC too.

stephth 15y ago

The [good / bad] news for you is: you [won't have to / can't] use the AppEngine High Replication Datastore. It's also worth mentioning that unlike AppEngine the Heroku stack is a unix based environment (call "heroku run bash" and boom, you have shell access) and its components are all open sourced, so it should be relatively easy to move from there to a VPS if you ever need to. Other than that, Heroku comes from multiple years of supporting Ruby (and some Node.js), their main page still states "Agile deployment for Ruby and Node.js", there's a lot of Rails/Sinatra/Rack specific stuff in their docs, and the Heroku command line tool is a Ruby Gem. In other words, this is not an "Heroku for Django", like Djangy was, it's become more like an "Heroku for anything, with a strong culture of Ruby", and IMO that's extremely exciting: we're talking about access to multiple languages and tools on the same easy-to-use cloud.

whackedspinach 15y ago
That is pretty exciting. I moved to App Engine from EC2 because I didn't want to spend that much time managing the stack. I'm going to go try Heroku now.
shykes 15y ago
If you like the idea of "Heroku for anything", I encourage you to try the original: dotCloud has been running a similar platform for almost a year now. We're flattered to see everyone shift gear and try our approach. But we like being one generation ahead - and we have a few announcements up our sleeve, too.
- stephth 15y ago
  Dotcloud looks very interesting, but to me it's hard to consider next to strong competitors that have established their pricing... That said I'm very looking forward to see the dotcloud pricing announced.
  - shykes 15y ago
    Hi Steph, I just dropped you an email with good news :)

intranation 15y ago

If you want a dedicated cloud hosting platform that works really well with Django you could do worse than try http://www.ep.io/ http://www.ep.io/ (currently invite only, but really good service).

whackedspinach 15y ago
Yes, I saw that a week ago and signed up for an invite. People seem to be happy with it from what I've seen on StackOverflow and other sites.

makeramen 15y ago

dotcloud (http://www.dotcloud.com/ http://www.dotcloud.com/) has been my go-to django (and everything) hosting. They seem to hand out invites pretty quickly, esp if you tweet them (http://docs.dotcloud.com/faq/#i-need-a-beta-invite-right-now http://docs.dotcloud.com/faq/#i-need-a-beta-invite-right-now). I signed up for all the betas of django hosting places a while ago and dotcloud was the only one I heard from. I'm pretty sure they're YC too.