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I know people who are in their 30s with no pre existing conditions who have already been vaccinated because: * they work for a hospital system (in IT) * they w

I know people who are in their 30s with no pre existing conditions who have already been vaccinated because: * they work for a hospital system (in IT) * they work at a university (doing research) * their family member has a pre existing condition (but somehow that family member is not the only one to get a vaccine) In addition to this, smokers and those /who have already recovered from covid/ are lined up to get first /and second/ doses before I get a single dose. I think it's fair to think of the system the politicians have decided on as flawed; to use your rhetoric, it literally ends lives to waste 2 doses on those who have already recovered from the illness. If gp wishes to apply his own sense of rationality to the process, I don't blame him.

henrikschroder 6y ago
I agree that the priority system is screwed up in many places and that as a result a lot of people were vaccinated who really shouldn't have been at this stage. But that's the moral choice of the people who designed those systems, and the people who didn't decline even though that was the right choice. But two wrongs don't make a right. It's still wrong for you to jump the queue, regardless of what everyone else is doing.
angry_octet 6y ago
You've fallen for the fallacy of believing that sick/vulnerable people are less deserving, and also failed to understand that preventing these people from being sick in hospitals make hospitals more available to you and your family if you should need them, for urgent or non-urgent care. The priority is to prevent system collapse first, then prevent deaths, then disability, and finally overall risk reduction. Also, people who work in IT in hospitals have significantly higher risk just because if their workplace, and reducing the likelihood of them being carriers protects other patients (some of whom cannot be vaccinated) and their staff. The same applies for family members of vulnerable people. This is not hard, you're just not trying.

henrikschroder 6y ago

I agree that the priority system is screwed up in many places and that as a result a lot of people were vaccinated who really shouldn't have been at this stage. But that's the moral choice of the people who designed those systems, and the people who didn't decline even though that was the right choice. But two wrongs don't make a right. It's still wrong for you to jump the queue, regardless of what everyone else is doing.

angry_octet 6y ago

You've fallen for the fallacy of believing that sick/vulnerable people are less deserving, and also failed to understand that preventing these people from being sick in hospitals make hospitals more available to you and your family if you should need them, for urgent or non-urgent care. The priority is to prevent system collapse first, then prevent deaths, then disability, and finally overall risk reduction. Also, people who work in IT in hospitals have significantly higher risk just because if their workplace, and reducing the likelihood of them being carriers protects other patients (some of whom cannot be vaccinated) and their staff. The same applies for family members of vulnerable people. This is not hard, you're just not trying.