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Yeah Brazil and specifically Manaus in the middle of the Amazon rainforest is doing a great job.

scythe 6y ago
Considering that Brazilian scientists described the government's strategy as an "institutional strategy to spread the coronavirus"[1] and they're reporting a lower death rate than France[2], you have to figure something in Brazil is working in humanity's favor. It can't make up for (probably) the worst policies in the world, of course. [1]: https://english.elpais.com/americas/2021-01-29/study-finds-that-brazils-jair-bolsonaro-carried-out-an-institutional-strategy-to-spread-the-coronavirus.html https://english.elpais.com/americas/2021-01-29/study-finds-t... [2]: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
- CorrectHorseBat 6y ago
  I don't think you can conclude anything from those numbers. On the one hand Brazil is very likely underreporting and has a much younger population, but on the other hand their medical care is not as good.
- maxerickson 6y ago
  A bit more than 20% of the people in France are over 65. For Brazil, it's a bit more than 9%. We know very well that age is a significant factor.
  - doliveira 6y ago
    I've seen some estimates that with the same age distribution as Brazil France would have had half the number of deaths: https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-55847831 https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-55847831 (Portuguese link)
- doliveira 6y ago
  It may be a factor, but it's a pretty big leap to say that's what is behind countries' successes and failures. I mean, I've even seen people claiming it's due to "Asians eating a lot of fish". The most obvious explanation is (even literally) right in front of our noses: politics, culture and age distribution.
- sjg007 6y ago
  Your hypothesis does not square with the unfolding tragedy. https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/what-we-do/news-stories/news/brazil-covid-19-disaster-unfolding-amazon https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/what-we-do/news-storie...
muststopmyths 6y ago
Sarcasm? https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00183-5/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... ( Resurgence of COVID-19 in Manaus, Brazil, despite high seroprevalence )
- doliveira 6y ago
  Yes, pure sarcasm. Quite a catastrophe there. And a cautionary tale for what happens when denialists get their way.

Considering that Brazilian scientists described the government's strategy as an "institutional strategy to spread the coronavirus"[1] and they're reporting a lower death rate than France[2], you have to figure something in Brazil is working in humanity's favor. It can't make up for (probably) the worst policies in the world, of course. [1]: https://english.elpais.com/americas/2021-01-29/study-finds-that-brazils-jair-bolsonaro-carried-out-an-institutional-strategy-to-spread-the-coronavirus.html https://english.elpais.com/americas/2021-01-29/study-finds-t... [2]: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

CorrectHorseBat 6y ago
I don't think you can conclude anything from those numbers. On the one hand Brazil is very likely underreporting and has a much younger population, but on the other hand their medical care is not as good.
maxerickson 6y ago
A bit more than 20% of the people in France are over 65. For Brazil, it's a bit more than 9%. We know very well that age is a significant factor.
- doliveira 6y ago
  I've seen some estimates that with the same age distribution as Brazil France would have had half the number of deaths: https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-55847831 https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-55847831 (Portuguese link)
doliveira 6y ago
It may be a factor, but it's a pretty big leap to say that's what is behind countries' successes and failures. I mean, I've even seen people claiming it's due to "Asians eating a lot of fish". The most obvious explanation is (even literally) right in front of our noses: politics, culture and age distribution.
sjg007 6y ago
Your hypothesis does not square with the unfolding tragedy. https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/what-we-do/news-stories/news/brazil-covid-19-disaster-unfolding-amazon https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/what-we-do/news-storie...

muststopmyths 6y ago

Sarcasm? https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00183-5/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... ( Resurgence of COVID-19 in Manaus, Brazil, despite high seroprevalence )

doliveira 6y ago
Yes, pure sarcasm. Quite a catastrophe there. And a cautionary tale for what happens when denialists get their way.