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> Think the programming talent pool is increasingly getting split into run-of-the-mill and superstar developers. Absolutely bullshit also designed to turn work

> Think the programming talent pool is increasingly getting split into run-of-the-mill and superstar developers. Absolutely bullshit also designed to turn workers against each other to the ownership class's benefit. We live and die by the quality of each other's abstractions. If everyone is writing shit, I can go it alone 1980s nolstagia style, or swim in molasses. If everyone else is writing excellent libraries, I am flying with a jet pack. There is definitely attempts with certain bootcamps, anti-intellectual languages like Go, to beat programmers into submission. The "superstars" may do fine in the short term, but will not survive this trend long term.

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biztos 6y ago
> anti-intellectual languages like Go Meaning...? I generally agree with your class argument but don't see how Go fits into it, nor what an "intellectual" language would be.
- riskable 6y ago
  Perhaps they thought the lack of memory management options in Go is anti-intellectual? I'm not a huge fan of Go (more of a Python/Rust person--to promote my bias) but I can't think of how it would be "anti-intellectual" (either). The statement was way out of place.
  - Ericson2314 6y ago
    Ignoring prior art, like generic types until 10 years later. Basically it's the evolution of java repeated; the second time is farce.
Forge36 6y ago
There are large questions of trade offs, how are we measuring value? Run-of-the-mill works best when things are well understood and stable. Superstar is needed when things get unpredictable and stop working unexpectedly. Think of the large number of JS frameworks which have come and gone over the past decade. Microsoft's .net4 -> core -> .net5 How can we tie compensation to ownership? We've seen software die as the abstraction falls into disrepair. There's a huge numbers of frameworks to try and solve this, WINE, Dosbox, SCUMMVM, Dolphin. Flying with a Jetpack is great until it runs out of fuel

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biztos 6y ago

> anti-intellectual languages like Go Meaning...? I generally agree with your class argument but don't see how Go fits into it, nor what an "intellectual" language would be.

riskable 6y ago
Perhaps they thought the lack of memory management options in Go is anti-intellectual? I'm not a huge fan of Go (more of a Python/Rust person--to promote my bias) but I can't think of how it would be "anti-intellectual" (either). The statement was way out of place.
- Ericson2314 6y ago
  Ignoring prior art, like generic types until 10 years later. Basically it's the evolution of java repeated; the second time is farce.

Forge36 6y ago

There are large questions of trade offs, how are we measuring value? Run-of-the-mill works best when things are well understood and stable. Superstar is needed when things get unpredictable and stop working unexpectedly. Think of the large number of JS frameworks which have come and gone over the past decade. Microsoft's .net4 -> core -> .net5 How can we tie compensation to ownership? We've seen software die as the abstraction falls into disrepair. There's a huge numbers of frameworks to try and solve this, WINE, Dosbox, SCUMMVM, Dolphin. Flying with a Jetpack is great until it runs out of fuel