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This reminds me a phrase from the Israeli writer Amos Oz: "For centuries, both jews and palestinians suffered from European oppression. When they achieve liber

This reminds me a phrase from the Israeli writer Amos Oz: "For centuries, both jews and palestinians suffered from European oppression. When they achieve liberation and comes the time for them to live in peace, they can't escape behaving to each other like the Europeans did to them. The mind of the oppressed is quite often a mirror of the opressor's mind". I believe that every hate and prejudice is learned from the experience of oppression. And it is learned both by the oppressor and oppressed. It takes a long walk under democracy to unlearn it.

JoeAltmaier 6y ago
Parent - child. Manager-employee. Soldier-sergeant. And on and on. It's sadly, part of what makes us human.
- coldtea 6y ago
  Why "sadly"? We could achieve the same or even greater attrocities without ranks of any kind.
  - JoeAltmaier 6y ago
    "I was only following orders"
MikeUt 6y ago
A quick skim of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_(region) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_(region) says Palestine was controlled by the Mamluk Sultanate since 1260, then by the Ottomans since 1516. So by "European oppression", is he referring to the brief 1915-1948 period, or the pre-1260 Crusader period, that apparently made all the difference?
- wilsocr88 6y ago
  "Centuries of European oppression" is a very easy anti-White dog whistle because it's often fairly accurate, so it's easy to toss it in to bludgeon a person into submission in a discussion. How unfortunate for the commenter that they peppered in the phrase in one of the few contexts where it's not especially accurate.
coldtea 6y ago
>For centuries, both jews and palestinians suffered from European oppression. When they achieve liberation and comes the time for them to live in peace, they can't escape behaving to each other like the Europeans did to them. Well, "to each other" underplays that one side has been left with 1/10th their land.

JoeAltmaier 6y ago

Parent - child. Manager-employee. Soldier-sergeant. And on and on. It's sadly, part of what makes us human.

coldtea 6y ago
Why "sadly"? We could achieve the same or even greater attrocities without ranks of any kind.
- JoeAltmaier 6y ago
  "I was only following orders"

MikeUt 6y ago

A quick skim of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_(region) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_(region) says Palestine was controlled by the Mamluk Sultanate since 1260, then by the Ottomans since 1516. So by "European oppression", is he referring to the brief 1915-1948 period, or the pre-1260 Crusader period, that apparently made all the difference?

wilsocr88 6y ago
"Centuries of European oppression" is a very easy anti-White dog whistle because it's often fairly accurate, so it's easy to toss it in to bludgeon a person into submission in a discussion. How unfortunate for the commenter that they peppered in the phrase in one of the few contexts where it's not especially accurate.

coldtea 6y ago

>For centuries, both jews and palestinians suffered from European oppression. When they achieve liberation and comes the time for them to live in peace, they can't escape behaving to each other like the Europeans did to them. Well, "to each other" underplays that one side has been left with 1/10th their land.