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>Today, there are many Jews living in Europe. I'm talking about in 1948 my friend. >The governments that persecuted Jews during World War II were defeated and

>Today, there are many Jews living in Europe. I'm talking about in 1948 my friend. >The governments that persecuted Jews during World War II were defeated and ceased to exist. Today, antisemitism, hate speech and any hate related imagery is illegal and frowned upon pretty much everywhere. You are either naive or you have an agenda. Governments are purely a device to manifest the will of the people. Would you feel comfortable living in europe when the entire continent tried their best to kill you? >A sovereign country has sovereignty over their domestic policies, including immigration. Your ignorance is shocking. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jews_in_Syria https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jews_in_Syria. But it proves my point. If a 2500 year old community are still considered immigrants then they must be citizens somewhere:) truth is there can't be a real argument based on precedent since there is none. My point, however, is given the tiny size of israel and the relative benignity of their crimes the obsessive focus on them to the point that UNRWA and UNHRC are distinct points to anti semitism.

29athrowaway 6y ago
> I'm talking about in 1948 my friend. I do not want to talk about 1948. I want to talk about the foundation of the Zionist organization, at the end of the 19th century. At that time, none of the attrocities you mentioned had happened yet. And by that time, there was already a plan to colonize Eretz Yisrael, proposed by Theodor Hertzl in Der Judenstaat in 1896. > Would you feel comfortable living in europe when the entire continent tried their best to kill you? Shortly after the WW2, all of Europe became effectively vassal states of the United States and the Soviet Union. Neither the US or the USSR would have allowed any of the antisemitism perpetrated by the nazis. > See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jews_in_Syria https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jews_in_Syria. The crisis you refer to is horrible, but we are talking about Eretz Yisrael, not Syria. And we are talking about the 19th century, not the 20th century. > If a 2500 year old community are still considered immigrants then they must be citizens somewhere:) Again, if you disagree with Syria, you can start a discussion about Syria. That would be a completely separate discussion from this one.
- marshmallow_12 6y ago
  i already said i could not agree less with the zionists. What i'm saying is that today it is hard to distinguish it from anti semitism. Support for this can be found in the evidence i presented
- marshmallow_12 6y ago
  also your ignorance on russian jews come through. The soviets were notoriously anti semitic.
  - 29athrowaway 6y ago
    Jews did suffer hardship in the Soviet Union, that is true. But it the Soviet Union liberated people from extermination camps, and created an Oblast that was dedicated to Jews.

29athrowaway 6y ago

> I'm talking about in 1948 my friend. I do not want to talk about 1948. I want to talk about the foundation of the Zionist organization, at the end of the 19th century. At that time, none of the attrocities you mentioned had happened yet. And by that time, there was already a plan to colonize Eretz Yisrael, proposed by Theodor Hertzl in Der Judenstaat in 1896. > Would you feel comfortable living in europe when the entire continent tried their best to kill you? Shortly after the WW2, all of Europe became effectively vassal states of the United States and the Soviet Union. Neither the US or the USSR would have allowed any of the antisemitism perpetrated by the nazis. > See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jews_in_Syria https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jews_in_Syria. The crisis you refer to is horrible, but we are talking about Eretz Yisrael, not Syria. And we are talking about the 19th century, not the 20th century. > If a 2500 year old community are still considered immigrants then they must be citizens somewhere:) Again, if you disagree with Syria, you can start a discussion about Syria. That would be a completely separate discussion from this one.

marshmallow_12 6y ago
i already said i could not agree less with the zionists. What i'm saying is that today it is hard to distinguish it from anti semitism. Support for this can be found in the evidence i presented
marshmallow_12 6y ago
also your ignorance on russian jews come through. The soviets were notoriously anti semitic.
- 29athrowaway 6y ago
  Jews did suffer hardship in the Soviet Union, that is true. But it the Soviet Union liberated people from extermination camps, and created an Oblast that was dedicated to Jews.