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Banned in Boston

100 points by apsec112 6y ago

gxqoz 6y ago
Not mentioned on this page, but a more virtuous campaign to ban a film in Boston was Monroe Trotter's attempt to ban the racist film Birth of a Nation: "Ironically, Trotter had succeeded in tightening a censorship bill but failed to stop the movie. It was a victory for artistic freedom but not necessarily a defeat for civil liberties, since the conflict had nurtured a young NAACP, which gained strength in the ensuing battles for civil rights in the coming century. As for Griffith, in an interview he gave in 1941 when he was virtually forgotten in Hollywood, he remarked that “because of the social progress which Negroes achieved” given the oppression they faced, “it is best that The Birth of a Nation in its present form be withheld from public exhibition.’’" https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-fight-to-ban-birth-of-a-nation https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-fight-to-ban-birth-of-a-na...
- konjin 6y ago
  And it worked so well too. Censors aren't there to protect the public, they are there to make busy bodies feel good about themselves.
YankeeDoodel 6y ago
The USA's Northeast is... interesting. If you meet someone from the area, the best thing you could do would be to reach out to them. Because it would be a tall order to expect them to do the same. It's an odd region. Repressed and taciturn by nature, as this sort of article shows. But there's also a strong ethos that people should be free to chart their own course, which stretches back to the nation's birth and eventually overcame the puritanical roots. These days people aren't particularly judgemental, but they are still quite reserved. John Steinbeck had this to say about getting directions in the area: >“I seem to be lost, officer. I wonder if you could direct me?” >“Where is it you want to go?” >“I’m trying to get to Deer Isle.” >He looked at me closely, and when he was satisfied that I wasn’t joking he swung on his hips and pointed across a small stretch of open water, and he didn’t bother to speak. >“Is that it?” >He nodded from up to down and left his head down. >“Well, how do I get there?” >I have always heard that Maine people are rather taciturn, but for this candidate for Mount Rushmore to point twice in an afternoon was to be unbearably talkative. He swung his chin in a small arc in the direction I had been traveling. If the afternoon had not been advancing I would have tried for another word from him even if doomed to failure. >“Thank you,” I said, and sounded to myself as though I rattled on forever.
- burkaman 6y ago
  Genuine question, not intended as an attack: does anybody find these regional stereotypes to be actually meaningful in real life? In my experience they are sort of like geographically-themed horoscopes, and I didn't think anybody really took them seriously. I've met a lot of different people from a lot of different places, I've lived in a few different regions, and I can't really think of a less useful predictor of personality than where you grew up.
  - YankeeDoodel 6y ago
    This is a throwaway so I don't mind saying...yes. I've lived in a lot of different areas in the US. People in the NE and PNW are more guarded and reticent. People in the Southwest/Midwest are more friendly and talkative. Wearing a cross or being the right color makes a big difference in some places. These are not categorical statements about everyone in a region, but my life experience says that some US stereotypes have some basis in reality. Local communities have different behavioral norms, and that's fine. We can pretend that they don't exist, but we can also acknowledge them to try and help bridge cultural gaps. Personally, I wish that people were more accepting of Northeast personalities. But the world wouldn't work if everyone was the same.
  - colechristensen 6y ago
    There are lots of jokes about norwegian-americans in lutheran churches which are spot on. likewise for passive aggressive minnesotans. And everyone i’ve ever known from wisconsin would at least be considered a mild alcoholic anywhere else. Stereotypes are what they are, first order approximations.
    - runeb 6y ago
      As a Norwegian living in America I'd love to hear some of these. Got a link?
      - samstave 6y ago
        As a great grandson of Norwegian immigrants - (They were some of the first Norwegians to Ballard Seattle (where the king and queen of norway still? visit) - My great grandfather owned the first bakery there. The sense of humor is my cup of tea: puns. Dead-pan-really-good-puns. My Norwegian and Swedish friends are as punny as me. Do you like puns? Give me a topic for a pun-off (as you can see from my last name "stave" '*staava*' (I don't know how to phonetically spell it - but based on stave churches...) --- I used to think I was indecisive... but now I'm just not sure.
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konjin 6y ago
It's pretty funny that we are at that point again. Deplatformed from Boston means that you have something interesting to say that makes middle class busy bodies uncomfortable. Even PG had something to say about that: >Of course, if they have time machines in the future they'll probably have a separate reference manual just for Cambridge. This has always been a fussy place, a town of i dotters and t crossers, where you're liable to get both your grammar and your ideas corrected in the same conversation. And that suggests another way to find taboos. Look for prigs, and see what's inside their heads. http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html
- permo-w 6y ago
  >mentioning sex >inciting an armed insurrection We’re not at this point again
  - konjin 6y ago
    Having lived through an actual armed insurrection: I hope you get treated for whatever mental illness has caused you to lose touch with reality.
    - dang 6y ago
      That crosses the line badly. You can't post like this here, and we ban accounts that do. Please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - bendbro 6y ago
    With regard to being able to create a "master" database, use a "female" connector, hold a "stand up" meeting, or greet people with "hey guys," we certainly are.
    - arp242 6y ago
      What's the problem with stand-up meeting?
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jtchang 6y ago
America's puritan based roots along with a continuing culture of anti-intellectualism will eventually be our undoing. This is slightly strange though given the premises on which our country was founded.
- stevenwoo 6y ago
  Like a lot of subjects, I think people find what they want when one talks about the founding of the United States of America. The slavery issue and treatment of native Americans that is the basis of the United States is pretty hard to get past as a founding principle, and I don't think it's a stretch to say they didn't consider women at all as being referenced in either document when they write "men", as many of the guys who wrote and signed that that were slave owners so they didn't even mean all human being males counted as men (except 3/5 of a slave for census purposes.)
- unishark 6y ago
  Are you talking about political correctness now?
the_only_law 6y ago
I was watching a Youtube video about banned documentaries a while back. One of which was a film documenting abuse in a mental health facility. It may not have been in Boston directly, but I recall it was somewhere in MA. The documentary was set by release, and even approved by the hospital, but the government decided to step in and halt it's showing.
- kortilla 6y ago
  Which government?
  - the_only_law 6y ago
    Don't recall offhand if it was the City or State but one localized somewhere to MA, not Federal.
- ya1sec 6y ago
  I think you're talking about Titicut Follies by Frederick Wiseman? He's an excellent filmmaker and a lot of his documentaries, including Titicut Follies, are on Kanopy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titicut_Follies#Censorship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titicut_Follies#Censorship
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  - the_only_law 6y ago
    Yep that looks like the one. I suppose it's good that it was eventually released even in a very limited capacity.
divbzero 6y ago
TIL: Author Thomas Pynchon is a descendent of William Pynchon [1], an immigrant to the Massachusetts Bay Colony who founded Roxbury when he arrived in 1630 and founded Springfield six years later. OP describes the elder Pynchon being exiled back to England after publishing a book criticizing Puritanism. That same book also happened to be the first one to be banned in Boston. [2] [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Pynchon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Pynchon [2]: https://www.masslive.com/history/2011/05/springfields_375th_from_puritans_to_presidents.html https://www.masslive.com/history/2011/05/springfields_375th_...
H8crilA 6y ago
As a European I've always found it strange just how deeply uncomfortable Americans seem to be with nudity. How is public breastfeeding a problem? Like just let it happen? Or try to imagine running a public naked sauna ... Or how some movies require a special cut for the US market (to remove some "inappropriate" scenes).
- rayiner 6y ago
  I suspect Europeans are the odd ones out here. As an Asian I don’t find anything strange about Americans in that regard at all.
  - jhgb 6y ago
    But most people in the US are (very recent) descendants of Europeans, not descendants of Asians. Perhaps that's why the difference is interesting.
  - rangibaby 6y ago
    What part of Asia? Japanese are far less prudish when compared to USA or UK et al
    - murat124 6y ago
      I've been to Turkish baths and Koren baths before and only in the latter I was told to throw away the tiny towel I was holding to cover Mr Johnson. I don't know why in some cultures it is ok but in some others nudity ignites feeling of shame but after I threw the tiny towel I felt better. I guess peer pressure works both ways.
    - rayiner 6y ago
      Sorry I meant South Asia.
- denimnerd42 6y ago
  You know the Puritans left for the US because they wanted to enact even more strict religious rules right?
samstave 6y ago
>*ban works featuring "objectionable" content, and often banned works with sexual content or foul language* Ironically, Boston is known exactly these banned things...
Rebelgecko 6y ago
Is the term still used? e.g. for Mooninites in Boston?
person_of_color 6y ago
Cancelled by the mob will be this century’s version
- wtfiswiththis 6y ago
  Would that be the mob that tried to overthrow D.C. or the mob that canceled the Dixie Chicks?
- cdelsolar 6y ago
  no
- gambiting 6y ago
  I don't know why you're getting downvoted, it's exactly true. If you say or write something that's offensive to someone people will put a completely disproportionate effort into making sure you're fired from your job, never get to write or publish anything again and in general achieve full censorship through mob justice. Like, the most recent example - Gina Carano. Do I disagree with what she was saying? Absolutely. Do I think that she deserved the amount of abuse she was getting on Twitter and elsewhere, and her eventual firing from Disney? Absolutely not. Like, how is that different than Boston banning certain artists because they didn't like what they were saying? Because we(as in, more "liberal" leaning people) disagree with them? It's stupid and I don't agree with the practice. Edit: and of course this effect exists here as well. If you disagree with something it gets downvoted until it's pushed to the bottom of the site, made nearly invisible, and eventually once enough people complain it disappears entirely behind a flagged tag. Most people don't actually engage in an exchange of ideas, they just make sure to penalize someone for saying something they don't like(downvote) and move on.
- timtas 6y ago
  Puritanism needs sinners to crusade against.
stormcode 6y ago
Just picked up Naked Lunch which appears to have been one of the last books banned in Boston. Read the first chapter and wow is it a strange ride so far.
- rwmj 6y ago
  It's a great book. The David Cronenberg-directed film is also excellent, although only somewhat related to the book.
- AndrewStephens 6y ago
  I read The Naked Lunch a few years ago and I live in Boston, I hope I am not in trouble. The first few chapters of the book are great but it soon gets repetitive.
pachico 6y ago
I can understand why people across the centuries might have wanted to censor The Decameron. Such a marvelous work! (I am lucky to be able to read "old" Italian. Once I flew to Florence, got into Santa Maria Novella and spent most of the day inside reading The Decameron. It was like being in a time capsule.)
- dawg- 6y ago
  Oh man that's cool. I've never read the Decameron - can you suggest a good English translation?
  - pachico 6y ago
    Nop, sorry. I never had to :( Anyway, I don't think that will be an issue. I also wander, what would a good English translation consists of? 14th century English? I'm afraid the subtleties related to the language will be lost, in this case, won't they? And the rest is just mundane stories, which you will appreciate in any language, I'd say. So, I wouldn't worry. Buy any version and enjoy, as I did, reading about how the world didn't change much in 7 centuries :) (I also find some tales quite funny.)
matthewmcg 6y ago
Another use of this phrase that might amuse the HN crowd: Until 1995, state securities regulators used to have independent authority over stock offerings occurring in their state. So your company might go through the SEC registration process for its initial public offering, get the go-ahead from the SEC and then get comments from regulators in Texas or California. In 1980 the Massachusetts Secretary of State decided that a stock issue from a promising new computer company was too speculative for Commonwealth residents[1]. When Apple Computer, Inc. went public that year, Massachusetts residents where not allowed to purchase shares. Apple’s investment bankers later distributed lucite deal toys to the team that had the traditional prospectus cover stamped “BANNED IN BOSTON.” These are now quite collectible [2]. [1]: https://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/AppleIPODec12_1980_WSJ.pdf https://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/AppleIPODe... [2]: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/apple-computer-inc-ipo-tombstone-250678336 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/apple-computer-inc-ip...
steve76 6y ago
Someone doesn't want drunks or junkies or people selling themselves or ugly stuff on TV. They go away on their own to live for self-improvement. Turns out, their lives are very nice and everyone wants what they built. They use the law to take it, bring back the drunks and drugs and criminals who churn people, and now all that is gone. Good people move away, and fools are left wondering why the world is so bad to them. I'm waiting to hear someone ask why those people at the Capitol were so mad. What? They're crazy? Or do they have a legitimate reason to be upset? Either way, it's your show. You're the one with the trillions, the army, the never ending great debate. Maybe you're not that good at your job. Or maybe, you are very good at your job, the job of processing people and ruining lives for your hallow celebrity and unrestrained ambition that changes every day and will do anything for a dollar. Congrats. You're a tv star now.

100 points by apsec112 6y ago

Not mentioned on this page, but a more virtuous campaign to ban a film in Boston was Monroe Trotter's attempt to ban the racist film Birth of a Nation: "Ironically, Trotter had succeeded in tightening a censorship bill but failed to stop the movie. It was a victory for artistic freedom but not necessarily a defeat for civil liberties, since the conflict had nurtured a young NAACP, which gained strength in the ensuing battles for civil rights in the coming century. As for Griffith, in an interview he gave in 1941 when he was virtually forgotten in Hollywood, he remarked that “because of the social progress which Negroes achieved” given the oppression they faced, “it is best that The Birth of a Nation in its present form be withheld from public exhibition.’’" https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-fight-to-ban-birth-of-a-nation https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-fight-to-ban-birth-of-a-na...

konjin 6y ago
And it worked so well too. Censors aren't there to protect the public, they are there to make busy bodies feel good about themselves.

YankeeDoodel 6y ago

The USA's Northeast is... interesting. If you meet someone from the area, the best thing you could do would be to reach out to them. Because it would be a tall order to expect them to do the same. It's an odd region. Repressed and taciturn by nature, as this sort of article shows. But there's also a strong ethos that people should be free to chart their own course, which stretches back to the nation's birth and eventually overcame the puritanical roots. These days people aren't particularly judgemental, but they are still quite reserved. John Steinbeck had this to say about getting directions in the area: >“I seem to be lost, officer. I wonder if you could direct me?” >“Where is it you want to go?” >“I’m trying to get to Deer Isle.” >He looked at me closely, and when he was satisfied that I wasn’t joking he swung on his hips and pointed across a small stretch of open water, and he didn’t bother to speak. >“Is that it?” >He nodded from up to down and left his head down. >“Well, how do I get there?” >I have always heard that Maine people are rather taciturn, but for this candidate for Mount Rushmore to point twice in an afternoon was to be unbearably talkative. He swung his chin in a small arc in the direction I had been traveling. If the afternoon had not been advancing I would have tried for another word from him even if doomed to failure. >“Thank you,” I said, and sounded to myself as though I rattled on forever.

burkaman 6y ago
Genuine question, not intended as an attack: does anybody find these regional stereotypes to be actually meaningful in real life? In my experience they are sort of like geographically-themed horoscopes, and I didn't think anybody really took them seriously. I've met a lot of different people from a lot of different places, I've lived in a few different regions, and I can't really think of a less useful predictor of personality than where you grew up.
- YankeeDoodel 6y ago
  This is a throwaway so I don't mind saying...yes. I've lived in a lot of different areas in the US. People in the NE and PNW are more guarded and reticent. People in the Southwest/Midwest are more friendly and talkative. Wearing a cross or being the right color makes a big difference in some places. These are not categorical statements about everyone in a region, but my life experience says that some US stereotypes have some basis in reality. Local communities have different behavioral norms, and that's fine. We can pretend that they don't exist, but we can also acknowledge them to try and help bridge cultural gaps. Personally, I wish that people were more accepting of Northeast personalities. But the world wouldn't work if everyone was the same.
- colechristensen 6y ago
  There are lots of jokes about norwegian-americans in lutheran churches which are spot on. likewise for passive aggressive minnesotans. And everyone i’ve ever known from wisconsin would at least be considered a mild alcoholic anywhere else. Stereotypes are what they are, first order approximations.
  - runeb 6y ago
    As a Norwegian living in America I'd love to hear some of these. Got a link?
    - samstave 6y ago
      As a great grandson of Norwegian immigrants - (They were some of the first Norwegians to Ballard Seattle (where the king and queen of norway still? visit) - My great grandfather owned the first bakery there. The sense of humor is my cup of tea: puns. Dead-pan-really-good-puns. My Norwegian and Swedish friends are as punny as me. Do you like puns? Give me a topic for a pun-off (as you can see from my last name "stave" '*staava*' (I don't know how to phonetically spell it - but based on stave churches...) --- I used to think I was indecisive... but now I'm just not sure.

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konjin 6y ago

It's pretty funny that we are at that point again. Deplatformed from Boston means that you have something interesting to say that makes middle class busy bodies uncomfortable. Even PG had something to say about that: >Of course, if they have time machines in the future they'll probably have a separate reference manual just for Cambridge. This has always been a fussy place, a town of i dotters and t crossers, where you're liable to get both your grammar and your ideas corrected in the same conversation. And that suggests another way to find taboos. Look for prigs, and see what's inside their heads. http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html

permo-w 6y ago
>mentioning sex >inciting an armed insurrection We’re not at this point again
- konjin 6y ago
  Having lived through an actual armed insurrection: I hope you get treated for whatever mental illness has caused you to lose touch with reality.
  - dang 6y ago
    That crosses the line badly. You can't post like this here, and we ban accounts that do. Please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- bendbro 6y ago
  With regard to being able to create a "master" database, use a "female" connector, hold a "stand up" meeting, or greet people with "hey guys," we certainly are.
  - arp242 6y ago
    What's the problem with stand-up meeting?

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jtchang 6y ago

America's puritan based roots along with a continuing culture of anti-intellectualism will eventually be our undoing. This is slightly strange though given the premises on which our country was founded.

stevenwoo 6y ago
Like a lot of subjects, I think people find what they want when one talks about the founding of the United States of America. The slavery issue and treatment of native Americans that is the basis of the United States is pretty hard to get past as a founding principle, and I don't think it's a stretch to say they didn't consider women at all as being referenced in either document when they write "men", as many of the guys who wrote and signed that that were slave owners so they didn't even mean all human being males counted as men (except 3/5 of a slave for census purposes.)
unishark 6y ago
Are you talking about political correctness now?

the_only_law 6y ago

I was watching a Youtube video about banned documentaries a while back. One of which was a film documenting abuse in a mental health facility. It may not have been in Boston directly, but I recall it was somewhere in MA. The documentary was set by release, and even approved by the hospital, but the government decided to step in and halt it's showing.

kortilla 6y ago
Which government?
- the_only_law 6y ago
  Don't recall offhand if it was the City or State but one localized somewhere to MA, not Federal.
ya1sec 6y ago
I think you're talking about Titicut Follies by Frederick Wiseman? He's an excellent filmmaker and a lot of his documentaries, including Titicut Follies, are on Kanopy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titicut_Follies#Censorship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titicut_Follies#Censorship
- deleted 6y ago
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- the_only_law 6y ago
  Yep that looks like the one. I suppose it's good that it was eventually released even in a very limited capacity.

divbzero 6y ago

TIL: Author Thomas Pynchon is a descendent of William Pynchon [1], an immigrant to the Massachusetts Bay Colony who founded Roxbury when he arrived in 1630 and founded Springfield six years later. OP describes the elder Pynchon being exiled back to England after publishing a book criticizing Puritanism. That same book also happened to be the first one to be banned in Boston. [2] [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Pynchon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Pynchon [2]: https://www.masslive.com/history/2011/05/springfields_375th_from_puritans_to_presidents.html https://www.masslive.com/history/2011/05/springfields_375th_...

H8crilA 6y ago

As a European I've always found it strange just how deeply uncomfortable Americans seem to be with nudity. How is public breastfeeding a problem? Like just let it happen? Or try to imagine running a public naked sauna ... Or how some movies require a special cut for the US market (to remove some "inappropriate" scenes).

rayiner 6y ago
I suspect Europeans are the odd ones out here. As an Asian I don’t find anything strange about Americans in that regard at all.
- jhgb 6y ago
  But most people in the US are (very recent) descendants of Europeans, not descendants of Asians. Perhaps that's why the difference is interesting.
- rangibaby 6y ago
  What part of Asia? Japanese are far less prudish when compared to USA or UK et al
  - murat124 6y ago
    I've been to Turkish baths and Koren baths before and only in the latter I was told to throw away the tiny towel I was holding to cover Mr Johnson. I don't know why in some cultures it is ok but in some others nudity ignites feeling of shame but after I threw the tiny towel I felt better. I guess peer pressure works both ways.
  - rayiner 6y ago
    Sorry I meant South Asia.
denimnerd42 6y ago
You know the Puritans left for the US because they wanted to enact even more strict religious rules right?

samstave 6y ago

>*ban works featuring "objectionable" content, and often banned works with sexual content or foul language* Ironically, Boston is known exactly these banned things...

Rebelgecko 6y ago

Is the term still used? e.g. for Mooninites in Boston?

person_of_color 6y ago

Cancelled by the mob will be this century’s version

wtfiswiththis 6y ago
Would that be the mob that tried to overthrow D.C. or the mob that canceled the Dixie Chicks?
cdelsolar 6y ago
no
gambiting 6y ago
I don't know why you're getting downvoted, it's exactly true. If you say or write something that's offensive to someone people will put a completely disproportionate effort into making sure you're fired from your job, never get to write or publish anything again and in general achieve full censorship through mob justice. Like, the most recent example - Gina Carano. Do I disagree with what she was saying? Absolutely. Do I think that she deserved the amount of abuse she was getting on Twitter and elsewhere, and her eventual firing from Disney? Absolutely not. Like, how is that different than Boston banning certain artists because they didn't like what they were saying? Because we(as in, more "liberal" leaning people) disagree with them? It's stupid and I don't agree with the practice. Edit: and of course this effect exists here as well. If you disagree with something it gets downvoted until it's pushed to the bottom of the site, made nearly invisible, and eventually once enough people complain it disappears entirely behind a flagged tag. Most people don't actually engage in an exchange of ideas, they just make sure to penalize someone for saying something they don't like(downvote) and move on.
timtas 6y ago
Puritanism needs sinners to crusade against.

stormcode 6y ago

Just picked up Naked Lunch which appears to have been one of the last books banned in Boston. Read the first chapter and wow is it a strange ride so far.

rwmj 6y ago
It's a great book. The David Cronenberg-directed film is also excellent, although only somewhat related to the book.
AndrewStephens 6y ago
I read The Naked Lunch a few years ago and I live in Boston, I hope I am not in trouble. The first few chapters of the book are great but it soon gets repetitive.

pachico 6y ago

I can understand why people across the centuries might have wanted to censor The Decameron. Such a marvelous work! (I am lucky to be able to read "old" Italian. Once I flew to Florence, got into Santa Maria Novella and spent most of the day inside reading The Decameron. It was like being in a time capsule.)

dawg- 6y ago
Oh man that's cool. I've never read the Decameron - can you suggest a good English translation?
- pachico 6y ago
  Nop, sorry. I never had to :( Anyway, I don't think that will be an issue. I also wander, what would a good English translation consists of? 14th century English? I'm afraid the subtleties related to the language will be lost, in this case, won't they? And the rest is just mundane stories, which you will appreciate in any language, I'd say. So, I wouldn't worry. Buy any version and enjoy, as I did, reading about how the world didn't change much in 7 centuries :) (I also find some tales quite funny.)

matthewmcg 6y ago

Another use of this phrase that might amuse the HN crowd: Until 1995, state securities regulators used to have independent authority over stock offerings occurring in their state. So your company might go through the SEC registration process for its initial public offering, get the go-ahead from the SEC and then get comments from regulators in Texas or California. In 1980 the Massachusetts Secretary of State decided that a stock issue from a promising new computer company was too speculative for Commonwealth residents[1]. When Apple Computer, Inc. went public that year, Massachusetts residents where not allowed to purchase shares. Apple’s investment bankers later distributed lucite deal toys to the team that had the traditional prospectus cover stamped “BANNED IN BOSTON.” These are now quite collectible [2]. [1]: https://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/AppleIPODec12_1980_WSJ.pdf https://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/AppleIPODe... [2]: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/apple-computer-inc-ipo-tombstone-250678336 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/apple-computer-inc-ip...

steve76 6y ago

Someone doesn't want drunks or junkies or people selling themselves or ugly stuff on TV. They go away on their own to live for self-improvement. Turns out, their lives are very nice and everyone wants what they built. They use the law to take it, bring back the drunks and drugs and criminals who churn people, and now all that is gone. Good people move away, and fools are left wondering why the world is so bad to them. I'm waiting to hear someone ask why those people at the Capitol were so mad. What? They're crazy? Or do they have a legitimate reason to be upset? Either way, it's your show. You're the one with the trillions, the army, the never ending great debate. Maybe you're not that good at your job. Or maybe, you are very good at your job, the job of processing people and ruining lives for your hallow celebrity and unrestrained ambition that changes every day and will do anything for a dollar. Congrats. You're a tv star now.