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People should get used to be deplatformed. I see this as a good thing. Maybe the cloud lock-in madness will stop.
by themihai 6y ago
People should get used to be deplatformed. I see this as a good thing. Maybe the cloud lock-in madness will stop.
- fatbird 6y agoThis is an interesting point: that a commitment to practical free speech for everyone, everywhere, will tend towards consolidation of platforms and natural monopolies. Cancellation, deplatforming, etc. might actually drive platform diversity and innovation which will, in turn, further freedom of expression far more effectively than public pressure to tolerate everything.
- papa_reton 6y agoThe Paradox of Tolerance comes to mind, also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_hegemony https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_hegemony
- cambalache 6y agoCareful , it will also drive to isolationism, echo-chambers and the quashing of controversial dissenting opinions. If you dont think right now we have opinions as controversial as "Gay people should be able to marry each other if they want" was 100 years ago,an opinion which right now we consider almost self-evident, I would urge you to think harder.
- pm24601 6y ago> it will also drive to isolationism, This separation would be good. It would mean that LGBTI humans would be able to find their own communities without cispeople getting weirded out. Right now everything about my gender is verboten because it is sexualized. Overreliance on youtube means that medical information around gender issues has to be "coded" so as to not trigger banning. Facebook outs people with their stupid names rules that puts real people in real danger. If everyone was being deplatformed then there would be the platform diversity needed.
- dleslie 6y agoRemember when gay and lesbian bars were a thing; back when straight people steered clear of them because of the stigma? Not having the stigma is good overall, but in many places there's no longer queer-exclusive spaces. That whole segment of culture is rapidly becoming a thing of the past.
- fatbird 6y agoI understand the idea that a diverse selection of exclusive communities leads to isolationism and echo-chambers. I just don't know how to judge if it's true or not. As others observe, those exclusive communities were the precursors of our inclusive communities. They gave the marginalized a safe space to learn acceptance, confidence, and toughness, and take that out of their safe space. And no one is a member of just one community, isolated from the rest, even when we try to be. The issue seems to me to be less about how exclusive of opinion those communities are, and more about how freely one may join and leave them while staying within bounds.
- aidenn0 6y agoForget 100 years ago. I'm only 40 and I remember when anything even remotely suggesting homosexuality was considered perverted, and marriage wasn't even on the table.
- pjmlp 6y agoNah, using cloud VMs over Web browsers feels just the same as X Windows Terminals to DG/UX central server in 1994, just with a prettier interface.