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Fellow peasant, I think you may be confused. It isn't so much because he's white but more of not poor. Please refrain from race baiting and focus on the true re

Fellow peasant, I think you may be confused. It isn't so much because he's white but more of not poor. Please refrain from race baiting and focus on the true reason. I know it's difficult to understand because the rich have certainly done a great job at implanting such an idea to our collective society. This is 100% sincere and I'm tired of what I've been seeing in society. This is my effort to make a change and raise awareness.

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rhizome 6y ago
>It isn't so much because he's white but more of not poor. It says a lot that you don't acknowledge any systemic connection between these. Sure, rich people with their idea-implants can be referenced collectively. Society making you tired, also a reasonable grouping. But implying that white people have been visiting injustice on black people, including having intentionally kept them poor? How dare you, sir.
warent 6y ago
Many people here in HN are both rich and good individuals
learc83 6y ago
Even when controlling for other factors like education (a proxy for income) and criminal history, Black male offenders receive a sentence 20% longer on average than White male offenders for the same crime. They're also convicted at a higher rate for the same indictments, and arrested at a higher rate in the first place. https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/demographic-differences-sentencing https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/demographic-d...
- baybal2 6y ago
  Now, how do you think you can clean the judicial system of racist judges, and in at large the whole legal fraternity? Outright, publicly known racists get protection of judicial immunity, and only near impossible judicial impeachment can do anything about them. What is the solution?
  - learc83 6y ago
    You're not going to find the solution buried in a random hacker news comment thread. But step one is to acknowledge that systemic racism exists in the first place. Half of the voters in the country explicitly deny the existence of systemic racism and the need to change anything at all.
    - giantg2 6y ago
      Do you have a poll for that claim, or are you just stereotyping based on party?
      - user982 6y ago
        https://www.uml.edu/Research/public-opinion/polls/2020/Race-Policing.aspx https://www.uml.edu/Research/public-opinion/polls/2020/Race-... "Democrats, liberals, Americans under the age of 50 and those who score low on the racial resentment scale are all far more likely than Republicans, conservatives, Americans older than age 50, and those scoring high in racial resentment to think that Blacks are treated less fairly than whites by the police."
        giantg2 6y ago
        "A majority of American adults think that policing in this country is not fair – 51% say that Blacks are treated less fairly than whites in their interactions with police, compared to 41% who say they are treated the same. Another 7% say whites are treated less fairly than Blacks." I see that 48% of American adults view it as not a problem or a problem in the other direction. Granted this is only a 1000 person study based on subjective experience. I wonder if they have larger studies, or any studies on objective evaluation[0] of if someone was treated differently based on race. I know I've been treated poorly by police but I don't believe race was a factor. [0] seems like the 20% harsher sentencing could be an indication, but I'll have to look at that more
        sdenton4 6y ago

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rhizome 6y ago

>It isn't so much because he's white but more of not poor. It says a lot that you don't acknowledge any systemic connection between these. Sure, rich people with their idea-implants can be referenced collectively. Society making you tired, also a reasonable grouping. But implying that white people have been visiting injustice on black people, including having intentionally kept them poor? How dare you, sir.

warent 6y ago

Many people here in HN are both rich and good individuals

learc83 6y ago

Even when controlling for other factors like education (a proxy for income) and criminal history, Black male offenders receive a sentence 20% longer on average than White male offenders for the same crime. They're also convicted at a higher rate for the same indictments, and arrested at a higher rate in the first place. https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/demographic-differences-sentencing https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/demographic-d...

baybal2 6y ago
Now, how do you think you can clean the judicial system of racist judges, and in at large the whole legal fraternity? Outright, publicly known racists get protection of judicial immunity, and only near impossible judicial impeachment can do anything about them. What is the solution?
- learc83 6y ago
  You're not going to find the solution buried in a random hacker news comment thread. But step one is to acknowledge that systemic racism exists in the first place. Half of the voters in the country explicitly deny the existence of systemic racism and the need to change anything at all.
  - giantg2 6y ago
    Do you have a poll for that claim, or are you just stereotyping based on party?
    - user982 6y ago
      https://www.uml.edu/Research/public-opinion/polls/2020/Race-Policing.aspx https://www.uml.edu/Research/public-opinion/polls/2020/Race-... "Democrats, liberals, Americans under the age of 50 and those who score low on the racial resentment scale are all far more likely than Republicans, conservatives, Americans older than age 50, and those scoring high in racial resentment to think that Blacks are treated less fairly than whites by the police."
      - giantg2 6y ago
        "A majority of American adults think that policing in this country is not fair – 51% say that Blacks are treated less fairly than whites in their interactions with police, compared to 41% who say they are treated the same. Another 7% say whites are treated less fairly than Blacks." I see that 48% of American adults view it as not a problem or a problem in the other direction. Granted this is only a 1000 person study based on subjective experience. I wonder if they have larger studies, or any studies on objective evaluation[0] of if someone was treated differently based on race. I know I've been treated poorly by police but I don't believe race was a factor. [0] seems like the 20% harsher sentencing could be an indication, but I'll have to look at that more
        sdenton4 6y ago