4 ms·

If he just wants attribution why doesn't he become a member of funnyjunk and post his own stuff himself WITH attribution? As he owns the content he can beat the

If he just wants attribution why doesn't he become a member of funnyjunk and post his own stuff himself WITH attribution? As he owns the content he can beat the others to it. I appreciate its far from a perfect solution but perhaps one with less conflict.

mvalle 15y ago
That's what I was thinking. He could even have FJ host it for him. win-win.
- bxr 15y ago
  Except for that part where FJ makes money off of him.
Pooter 15y ago
> If he just wants attribution why doesn't he become a member of funnyjunk and post his own stuff himself WITH attribution? Because he doesn't want to? And why should the onus be on him to do this so as to prevent people from taking his work and passing it along with no attribution?
mishmash 15y ago
> why doesn't he become a member of funnyjunk and post his own stuff Not agreeing with his current plan, but keeping up with all the new sites that do this would probably be more work than trying to attack them. > I know that if FunnyJunk disappeared, 50 other clones would pop up to take its place overnight..
- mikhuang 15y ago
  Then there's a startup idea? One that maintains your content across a bunch of sites?
  - dspillett 15y ago
    Actually, I thought of a site that scanned FJ and similar, copied the content, scanned services like Google and TinEye for the original content and then rehosted it all with attribution to the original source (and not FJ et al). The effort required to filter out duplicates, locate correct attribution and links to the site holding the original content could be crowdsourced. Give users points of reputation for updating content with correct attribution and links, or adding something in the first place with the same or for adding genuinely original content, take away point when "original" content gets found as copied (this could be applied instantly if a user uploads something that is detected as a duplicate of an item already listed with correct attribution), and so forth. Some meta-moderation (like slashdot) might be needed though, as well as a conflict resolution process that would need human intervention at some point, and some effort would need to go into creating and maintaining good relationships with the original content creators, so for from a complete walk in the park to do properly. Part of the "sell" to the original author like The Oatmeal could be providing a list of places where the same content is found with no attribution and back-links, keeping this site free of "bad" ads (adult and/or disturbing content, pop-ups/unders, irritating flash, or just too much advertising) and showing only thumbnails/segments with links to the full content on their site if they prefer. If it wasn't for the fact I once again completely failed to win the lottery this week so still have to work to pay the mortgage, I'd be tempted to give such a project a go...
- Quarrelsome 15y ago
  My argument is more that attacking the sites directly doesn't necessarily herald results nor positive PR. Joining them and posting would herald a form of result (if attribution is your only aim). The number of sites is an issue with either choice of action.
  - bxr 15y ago
    >(if attribution is your only aim) There is a difference between the minimum you tolerate and what you want to actively participate in. You're just suggesting that The Oatmeal drag himself down to their level.
deleted 15y ago
[deleted]
btilly 15y ago
Why should he work to make funnyjunk money and simultaneously make himself harder to find for his fans? And what does he do about the 50 other content copiers. Personally I think that the funnyjunk admin has demonstrated himself to be a big enough jerk that he deserves to be sued.

mvalle 15y ago

That's what I was thinking. He could even have FJ host it for him. win-win.

bxr 15y ago
Except for that part where FJ makes money off of him.

Pooter 15y ago

> If he just wants attribution why doesn't he become a member of funnyjunk and post his own stuff himself WITH attribution? Because he doesn't want to? And why should the onus be on him to do this so as to prevent people from taking his work and passing it along with no attribution?

mishmash 15y ago

> why doesn't he become a member of funnyjunk and post his own stuff Not agreeing with his current plan, but keeping up with all the new sites that do this would probably be more work than trying to attack them. > I know that if FunnyJunk disappeared, 50 other clones would pop up to take its place overnight..

mikhuang 15y ago
Then there's a startup idea? One that maintains your content across a bunch of sites?
- dspillett 15y ago
  Actually, I thought of a site that scanned FJ and similar, copied the content, scanned services like Google and TinEye for the original content and then rehosted it all with attribution to the original source (and not FJ et al). The effort required to filter out duplicates, locate correct attribution and links to the site holding the original content could be crowdsourced. Give users points of reputation for updating content with correct attribution and links, or adding something in the first place with the same or for adding genuinely original content, take away point when "original" content gets found as copied (this could be applied instantly if a user uploads something that is detected as a duplicate of an item already listed with correct attribution), and so forth. Some meta-moderation (like slashdot) might be needed though, as well as a conflict resolution process that would need human intervention at some point, and some effort would need to go into creating and maintaining good relationships with the original content creators, so for from a complete walk in the park to do properly. Part of the "sell" to the original author like The Oatmeal could be providing a list of places where the same content is found with no attribution and back-links, keeping this site free of "bad" ads (adult and/or disturbing content, pop-ups/unders, irritating flash, or just too much advertising) and showing only thumbnails/segments with links to the full content on their site if they prefer. If it wasn't for the fact I once again completely failed to win the lottery this week so still have to work to pay the mortgage, I'd be tempted to give such a project a go...
Quarrelsome 15y ago
My argument is more that attacking the sites directly doesn't necessarily herald results nor positive PR. Joining them and posting would herald a form of result (if attribution is your only aim). The number of sites is an issue with either choice of action.
- bxr 15y ago
  >(if attribution is your only aim) There is a difference between the minimum you tolerate and what you want to actively participate in. You're just suggesting that The Oatmeal drag himself down to their level.

deleted 15y ago

[deleted]

btilly 15y ago

Why should he work to make funnyjunk money and simultaneously make himself harder to find for his fans? And what does he do about the 50 other content copiers. Personally I think that the funnyjunk admin has demonstrated himself to be a big enough jerk that he deserves to be sued.