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Very good points. I still feel this may not be enough though to catch up and/or convince people to switch from platforms they are comfortable with. Also, why w

Very good points. I still feel this may not be enough though to catch up and/or convince people to switch from platforms they are comfortable with. Also, why would Nokia bet on one horse, and not follow HTC's example of supporting both WP7 and Android?

kenjackson 15y ago
Also, why would Nokia bet on one horse, and not follow HTC's example of supporting both WP7 and Android? I can give you a billion reasons. :-) Seriously though, while Android is ahead -- even if Nokia doesn't win over a single Android user, there are more ppl getting smartphones for the first time next year than smartphone users in the world today (by estimates). That is the market is growing super fast. So if WP7 can win just 20% of completely new customers. Customers who don't have Android or iPhone -- they'll be about 10% of the market -- and that assumes they win over no converts. If they can convert just 10% of iPhone/Android users that can get them to 15% market share. That's pretty good. It's clear Nokia already tried negotiating with Google and Google was arrogant. I don't expect they'll go back to that well any time soon. And remember they're getting special treatment from MS -- and I don't discount the rumors. I think there is a acquisition possibly in the works. My hope though is we don't actually hear about it until mid 2012.
- Daniel14 15y ago
  > Nokia tried negotiating with Google and Google was arrogant. I can't help but suspect Microsoft needed Nokia more than Google (read: was willing to pay more for the deal), which was what caused the partnership.
  - recoiledsnake 15y ago
    What is there to suspect in that? It's plain clear from Elop's words. A nascent platform would of course make more concessions than a well established one. Nokia needs the money to see through this year and has monetizable assets like Navteq/Ovi maps in Europe and Asia that Bing lacks.
- forgottenpaswrd 15y ago
  "It's clear Nokia already tried negotiating with Google and Google was arrogant." Hey, we are hearing only one side of the story and this side is blaming others instead of taking responsibility. Usually the people that use to blame others are the people to blame themselves.
bakbak 15y ago
i guess its better to put all your energy and ficus on one platform - they've amazing h/w capability now the only thing needed is to innovate with the strong collaboration with someone who has deep pocket,strength and speed .. so MS fits the bill perfectly ... Also by the time Nokia settles down with restructuring and market gaining, it wont be surprising if MEEGO also succeeds (even a little bit as Intel's power wont let it die easily) then Nokia will be the first one to join-in ... MEEGO by the way has very strong vision and it is the only platform that can threaten Apple and Google put together ...

kenjackson 15y ago

Also, why would Nokia bet on one horse, and not follow HTC's example of supporting both WP7 and Android? I can give you a billion reasons. :-) Seriously though, while Android is ahead -- even if Nokia doesn't win over a single Android user, there are more ppl getting smartphones for the first time next year than smartphone users in the world today (by estimates). That is the market is growing super fast. So if WP7 can win just 20% of completely new customers. Customers who don't have Android or iPhone -- they'll be about 10% of the market -- and that assumes they win over no converts. If they can convert just 10% of iPhone/Android users that can get them to 15% market share. That's pretty good. It's clear Nokia already tried negotiating with Google and Google was arrogant. I don't expect they'll go back to that well any time soon. And remember they're getting special treatment from MS -- and I don't discount the rumors. I think there is a acquisition possibly in the works. My hope though is we don't actually hear about it until mid 2012.

Daniel14 15y ago
> Nokia tried negotiating with Google and Google was arrogant. I can't help but suspect Microsoft needed Nokia more than Google (read: was willing to pay more for the deal), which was what caused the partnership.
- recoiledsnake 15y ago
  What is there to suspect in that? It's plain clear from Elop's words. A nascent platform would of course make more concessions than a well established one. Nokia needs the money to see through this year and has monetizable assets like Navteq/Ovi maps in Europe and Asia that Bing lacks.
forgottenpaswrd 15y ago
"It's clear Nokia already tried negotiating with Google and Google was arrogant." Hey, we are hearing only one side of the story and this side is blaming others instead of taking responsibility. Usually the people that use to blame others are the people to blame themselves.

bakbak 15y ago

i guess its better to put all your energy and ficus on one platform - they've amazing h/w capability now the only thing needed is to innovate with the strong collaboration with someone who has deep pocket,strength and speed .. so MS fits the bill perfectly ... Also by the time Nokia settles down with restructuring and market gaining, it wont be surprising if MEEGO also succeeds (even a little bit as Intel's power wont let it die easily) then Nokia will be the first one to join-in ... MEEGO by the way has very strong vision and it is the only platform that can threaten Apple and Google put together ...