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I like how we are focussing on this Facebook-Apple story, and meanwhile the real story is that Facebook has nothing against Google. And that is the big problem

I like how we are focussing on this Facebook-Apple story, and meanwhile the real story is that Facebook has nothing against Google. And that is the big problem. It’s a form of disenfranchisement: Lowerclass people more often have Androids and have much less choice in tracking, while higherclass people can at least choose, by the sheer design of their phone.

bdcravens 6y ago
How would you solve this problem?
- laurent92 6y ago
  iOS is: - requesting permissions at the time of using the feature, - giving permissions like GPS only for limited time, or to subsets of photos only, - and requires app to keep full features if permission is not granted. It should be required that Android did the same. After all, a pure market is where people are fully informed and have a choice, so there could be a theoretical basis for requiring Android not to be confusing with permissions.
  - grishka 6y ago
    > It should be required that Android did the same. Assuming you go through Google Play, which you aren't required to. And assuming Google Play actually reviews apps, including every single update, which it sometimes does but crappily.
vr46 6y ago
^^ Zuckerberg is a noisy neighbour having a tantrum if he's taking this personally.
- hutzlibu 6y ago
  Not a problem, because he bought his neighbour houses, too, so he can have his privacy. https://www.scmp.com/magazines/style/news-trends/article/3009010/why-mark-zuckerberg-buys-properties-surround-his-10 https://www.scmp.com/magazines/style/news-trends/article/300...
dastx 6y ago
Also the fact that Google hasn't updated their app in three months because they don't want to be bound to the change Apple made.
grishka 6y ago
For one thing, Google doesn't have complete control over Android. Facebook preinstalls itself onto many phones, and oftentimes updates to its apps are installed without any Google involvement whatsoever — they have an updater app that is capable of silently installing apks the same way Google Play does.

bdcravens 6y ago

How would you solve this problem?

laurent92 6y ago
iOS is: - requesting permissions at the time of using the feature, - giving permissions like GPS only for limited time, or to subsets of photos only, - and requires app to keep full features if permission is not granted. It should be required that Android did the same. After all, a pure market is where people are fully informed and have a choice, so there could be a theoretical basis for requiring Android not to be confusing with permissions.
- grishka 6y ago
  > It should be required that Android did the same. Assuming you go through Google Play, which you aren't required to. And assuming Google Play actually reviews apps, including every single update, which it sometimes does but crappily.

vr46 6y ago

^^ Zuckerberg is a noisy neighbour having a tantrum if he's taking this personally.

hutzlibu 6y ago
Not a problem, because he bought his neighbour houses, too, so he can have his privacy. https://www.scmp.com/magazines/style/news-trends/article/3009010/why-mark-zuckerberg-buys-properties-surround-his-10 https://www.scmp.com/magazines/style/news-trends/article/300...

dastx 6y ago

Also the fact that Google hasn't updated their app in three months because they don't want to be bound to the change Apple made.

grishka 6y ago

For one thing, Google doesn't have complete control over Android. Facebook preinstalls itself onto many phones, and oftentimes updates to its apps are installed without any Google involvement whatsoever — they have an updater app that is capable of silently installing apks the same way Google Play does.