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Agreed and I think what consumers should do is vote with their wallets and attention: - Cancel NYT subscriptions - Subscribe to independent journalists and wr

Agreed and I think what consumers should do is vote with their wallets and attention: - Cancel NYT subscriptions - Subscribe to independent journalists and writers on Substack or via other means - Flag NYT articles

leesalminen 6y ago
I subscribed to Glenn Greenwald the day he left The Intercept. I don’t really read his writings nor do I necessarily agree with what he say to say all the time. But, I really like the idea of supporting individual journalists with $. Hopefully others can see Glenn’s success in this model and try it out themselves.
- mattdotc 6y ago
  You're supporting someone whose writings you don't read after he left in a big hissy fit because his editors tried to edit him. Got it. A lot of folks might soon be discovering why editors are actually important. There's value in having another party check your work, challenge your assumptions, and question your claims. This process is not blanket censorship, but Glenn would have you think so.
  - leesalminen 6y ago
    I think the public should be challenging assumptions and questioning claims. Advocating for an “editor” aka “gatekeeper” is a form of elitism in that it assumes an editor will be “better” at challenging assumptions than the public at large. While you may find many instances where that is true, it’s not good for public discourse to be boxed into a frame of discourse decided by the ivory tower types. My current financial support for Glenn has nothing to do with him. It has to do with the funding model of journalism. He’s just the first one I came across to try it, so I’m supportive.
  - monocasa 6y ago
    He had a contractual agreement that editors couldn't edit for content at The Intercept, a news outfit he literally founded in order to not have content based editorial oversight. Describing that as a "hissy fit" is disingenuous.

leesalminen 6y ago

I subscribed to Glenn Greenwald the day he left The Intercept. I don’t really read his writings nor do I necessarily agree with what he say to say all the time. But, I really like the idea of supporting individual journalists with $. Hopefully others can see Glenn’s success in this model and try it out themselves.

mattdotc 6y ago
You're supporting someone whose writings you don't read after he left in a big hissy fit because his editors tried to edit him. Got it. A lot of folks might soon be discovering why editors are actually important. There's value in having another party check your work, challenge your assumptions, and question your claims. This process is not blanket censorship, but Glenn would have you think so.
- leesalminen 6y ago
  I think the public should be challenging assumptions and questioning claims. Advocating for an “editor” aka “gatekeeper” is a form of elitism in that it assumes an editor will be “better” at challenging assumptions than the public at large. While you may find many instances where that is true, it’s not good for public discourse to be boxed into a frame of discourse decided by the ivory tower types. My current financial support for Glenn has nothing to do with him. It has to do with the funding model of journalism. He’s just the first one I came across to try it, so I’m supportive.
- monocasa 6y ago
  He had a contractual agreement that editors couldn't edit for content at The Intercept, a news outfit he literally founded in order to not have content based editorial oversight. Describing that as a "hissy fit" is disingenuous.