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Human history would disagree with you. We've had art as long as people have been able to create it. There's nothing wrong with playing MMOs all day if that's w

Human history would disagree with you. We've had art as long as people have been able to create it. There's nothing wrong with playing MMOs all day if that's what you want to do. In fact, you'd be providing social currency for the developer who created it, motivating them to create more art. Also, don't forget that most people will still want to attract a mate, which is more of a positive motivation that trying not to starve to death.

rowanG077 6y ago
And for as long as we had human history we had to work to survive. Also I'm not saying there would be no art. I'm saying the quantity of people doing art would sharply decrease. There is nothing wrong with playing video games all day. Except that in general it doesn't truly make people happy. I would say its a local maximum. Attracting a mate is allready too hard for many people right now. Going jobless and ensuring a lot of people will never find a reason to belong will probably that issue only worse.
- solosoyokaze 6y ago
  I disagree that the majority of jobs give people happiness or a reason to live. Like you say, it's been a necessity for all of human history to work. Only now it's not, which is why so much work is meaningless. Alleviating the threat of death due to unemployment is going to be a positive for most people.
  - rowanG077 6y ago
    You don't need UBI for "Alleviating the threat of death due to unemployment". You can have welfare systems that encourage you do get a job and only pay the minimum for you to live. These systems allready exists in some countries. That's not what UBI is about.
    - solosoyokaze 6y ago
      It’s definitely part of what it’s about. No one should have to struggle to survive or work an exploitative job. I think that’s where we’re at as a species. We should be able to provide baseline survival to all.

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Human history would disagree with you. We've had art as long as people have been able to create it. There's nothing wrong with playing MMOs all day if that's w

by solosoyokaze 6y ago

rowanG077 6y ago
And for as long as we had human history we had to work to survive. Also I'm not saying there would be no art. I'm saying the quantity of people doing art would sharply decrease. There is nothing wrong with playing video games all day. Except that in general it doesn't truly make people happy. I would say its a local maximum. Attracting a mate is allready too hard for many people right now. Going jobless and ensuring a lot of people will never find a reason to belong will probably that issue only worse.
- solosoyokaze 6y ago
  I disagree that the majority of jobs give people happiness or a reason to live. Like you say, it's been a necessity for all of human history to work. Only now it's not, which is why so much work is meaningless. Alleviating the threat of death due to unemployment is going to be a positive for most people.
  - rowanG077 6y ago
    You don't need UBI for "Alleviating the threat of death due to unemployment". You can have welfare systems that encourage you do get a job and only pay the minimum for you to live. These systems allready exists in some countries. That's not what UBI is about.
    - solosoyokaze 6y ago
      It’s definitely part of what it’s about. No one should have to struggle to survive or work an exploitative job. I think that’s where we’re at as a species. We should be able to provide baseline survival to all.