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> Edit: When I post about this stuff, I often get asked about specifics. For reasons of privacy, and several others, I would rather not get into them. Do your o

> Edit: When I post about this stuff, I often get asked about specifics. For reasons of privacy, and several others, I would rather not get into them. Do your own research, find your own way. Don't wait for everything to be handed to you on a plate. I've provided more than enough information in this comment. Come on now, are you really going to post about how something "paid off in ways I didn't even imagine possible when I started out" and not name even one example? This lowers your comment to being basically on the same tier of conversation as conspiracy theorists who brush off requests for proof with "DO YOUR RESEARCH, THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE I CAN'T GIVE YOU SPECIFICS".

trhway 6y ago
unfortunately mentioning any specifics risks transforming the conversation into arguing about such a specific item with the results being projected back onto the main statement. It also risks sounding like one is pushing his/her pseudoscientific stuff. In the area like microbiome with highly individual situations and relatively low level of established science any specifics is just an anecdote not much suitable for rigorous discussion. (i have myself found a couple ways of dealing with my SIBO (test based diagnosed by GE) for example and almost never discuss those specifics. It is really an area of "do you own research" and the useful methods/etc. are really "out there".)
- johnchristopher 6y ago
  Maybe so but “Don't wait for everything to be handed to you on a plate. I've provided more than enough information in this comment.” is really condescending and not inspiring much trust. It's also a classic move when you can't backup your claims.
- bsanr2 6y ago
  "This worked for me, but might not work for you, because of our specific circumstances," followed by a detailed description, would suffice, and in turn be much less useless and condescending. Please, discuss specifics (as I have).
  - trhway 6y ago
    with all the caveats of not being a doctor and all the risks known and unknown, "don't try at home", etc. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17139208 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17139208 while i didn't get totally cured, the condition went down very significantly, a couple orders of magnitude (by subjective feeling and some objective metrics), and since then i've mostly been maintaining the situation by a daily teaspoon of activated charcoal mixed into 2 cups of water (i drink it at least 3 hours after meal and at least 2 hours before meal to minimize charcoal binding on food instead of its intended targets).
    - bsanr2 6y ago
      This is interesting. I was never diagnosed with anything (too poor to go to the doctor at the time, even with insurance), but I came to the conclusion that I had a similar issue: bad (or overgrown) bacteria housed snugly in biofilm. As mentioned here (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26119265 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26119265), someone suggested taking digestive enzymes on an empty stomach would help to break down the biofilm and allow healthier bacteria a chance to eatablish themselves. Two different self-treatments aimed at what seem to be similar issues with anecdotal success. Hm. I really, really do hope that all aspects of our experiences get studied more thoroughly in the future. Thanks for sharing.
johnchristopher 6y ago
Haha, that's what he did :D. Coincidentally I looked OP's profile and found this URL again http://hn:hn@sHiTMyseLf.com/index.html http://hn:hn@sHiTMyseLf.com/index.html. I had stumbled upon it in a previous thread (don't remember which one, but I only look at profile when I read some specific kind of comments). I didn't get what the website was about last time and I didn't stay long enough this time either.
- forgotmypw17 6y ago
  That URL was obfuscated to prevent bot abuse. It will now be replaced with a new one.
  - remexre 6y ago
    https://xkcd.com/1808/ https://xkcd.com/1808/

trhway 6y ago

unfortunately mentioning any specifics risks transforming the conversation into arguing about such a specific item with the results being projected back onto the main statement. It also risks sounding like one is pushing his/her pseudoscientific stuff. In the area like microbiome with highly individual situations and relatively low level of established science any specifics is just an anecdote not much suitable for rigorous discussion. (i have myself found a couple ways of dealing with my SIBO (test based diagnosed by GE) for example and almost never discuss those specifics. It is really an area of "do you own research" and the useful methods/etc. are really "out there".)

johnchristopher 6y ago
Maybe so but “Don't wait for everything to be handed to you on a plate. I've provided more than enough information in this comment.” is really condescending and not inspiring much trust. It's also a classic move when you can't backup your claims.
bsanr2 6y ago
"This worked for me, but might not work for you, because of our specific circumstances," followed by a detailed description, would suffice, and in turn be much less useless and condescending. Please, discuss specifics (as I have).
- trhway 6y ago
  with all the caveats of not being a doctor and all the risks known and unknown, "don't try at home", etc. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17139208 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17139208 while i didn't get totally cured, the condition went down very significantly, a couple orders of magnitude (by subjective feeling and some objective metrics), and since then i've mostly been maintaining the situation by a daily teaspoon of activated charcoal mixed into 2 cups of water (i drink it at least 3 hours after meal and at least 2 hours before meal to minimize charcoal binding on food instead of its intended targets).
  - bsanr2 6y ago
    This is interesting. I was never diagnosed with anything (too poor to go to the doctor at the time, even with insurance), but I came to the conclusion that I had a similar issue: bad (or overgrown) bacteria housed snugly in biofilm. As mentioned here (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26119265 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26119265), someone suggested taking digestive enzymes on an empty stomach would help to break down the biofilm and allow healthier bacteria a chance to eatablish themselves. Two different self-treatments aimed at what seem to be similar issues with anecdotal success. Hm. I really, really do hope that all aspects of our experiences get studied more thoroughly in the future. Thanks for sharing.

johnchristopher 6y ago

Haha, that's what he did :D. Coincidentally I looked OP's profile and found this URL again http://hn:hn@sHiTMyseLf.com/index.html http://hn:hn@sHiTMyseLf.com/index.html. I had stumbled upon it in a previous thread (don't remember which one, but I only look at profile when I read some specific kind of comments). I didn't get what the website was about last time and I didn't stay long enough this time either.

forgotmypw17 6y ago
That URL was obfuscated to prevent bot abuse. It will now be replaced with a new one.
- remexre 6y ago
  https://xkcd.com/1808/ https://xkcd.com/1808/