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You know those aren’t sources and sf is a local microcosm. Your post lack humanity and nuance. Perhaps you’re jaded by your experiences which is fair but not r

You know those aren’t sources and sf is a local microcosm. Your post lack humanity and nuance. Perhaps you’re jaded by your experiences which is fair but not representative. Consistent access to sufficient money is life changing for people who grew up without. The change isn’t immediate. You don’t just suddenly adapt. You don’t unlearn the coping mechanisms you develop to survive while your poor. It takes time. Poverty fucks you up.

specialp 6y ago
It isn't lacking humanity. I grew up poor as well. And what the poster says does indeed happen a lot. This is not to say I don't think the poor should be helped. I was helped with school grants and loans to get me to where I am today, Medicaid, and also welfare for my parents and I. So personally I know how it was, and I know how it is to have to fight that. It is hard and the poor need help for sure. The problem of poverty can come multiple ways. One way is lack of opportunity or being in a hole you can't get out of (kids and nobody to care for them, no home, nobody to look up to, mental illness, drug addiction, health problems). But there's also people that just aren't going to do their part to help themselves either. So what we need to do is help people get out of holes to get on their feet. There's a substantial portion of people that will take that money and do exactly what the OP said.
- Jochim 6y ago
  The problem is that in trying to distinguish between the two groups you'll inevitably fuck it up and ruin the lives of people who could otherwise have turned it around.
- iovrthoughtthis 6y ago
  I don’t do what I need to do to help myself most of the time. Turns out my reason might be an executive function disorder. Perhaps many of these people who don’t do their part to help them selves are actually suffering from poor mental health?

specialp 6y ago

It isn't lacking humanity. I grew up poor as well. And what the poster says does indeed happen a lot. This is not to say I don't think the poor should be helped. I was helped with school grants and loans to get me to where I am today, Medicaid, and also welfare for my parents and I. So personally I know how it was, and I know how it is to have to fight that. It is hard and the poor need help for sure. The problem of poverty can come multiple ways. One way is lack of opportunity or being in a hole you can't get out of (kids and nobody to care for them, no home, nobody to look up to, mental illness, drug addiction, health problems). But there's also people that just aren't going to do their part to help themselves either. So what we need to do is help people get out of holes to get on their feet. There's a substantial portion of people that will take that money and do exactly what the OP said.

Jochim 6y ago
The problem is that in trying to distinguish between the two groups you'll inevitably fuck it up and ruin the lives of people who could otherwise have turned it around.
iovrthoughtthis 6y ago
I don’t do what I need to do to help myself most of the time. Turns out my reason might be an executive function disorder. Perhaps many of these people who don’t do their part to help them selves are actually suffering from poor mental health?